In this episode of the Better For America podcast, Mark Levin joins AMAC CEO Rebecca Weber to break down how Marxist ideology is overtaking America’s institutions and threatening our core freedoms. Levin warns about activist judges and media bias, exposing how they’re working to undermine the Constitution. He shares sharp insights on the erosion of free speech, Israel’s right to self-defense, and what Americans must do to fight back. “Their goal is to conquer the culture,” Levin says, highlighting the left’s relentless push to control education, media, and government. Don’t miss this powerful conversation that reveals the stakes and the solutions for defending liberty.
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Rebecca Weber: Ladies and gentlemen, I have the absolute honor of welcoming a true titan of conservative thought, a fierce defender of liberty, and one of the most influential voices in American politics Today. He is a bestselling author, a constitutional scholar, and the host of the Ally Syndicated radio show, the Mark Levin Show.
As well as the powerhouse behind Life, Liberty, and Levin on Fox News, mark Levin. Welcome to Better for America. It’s a joy to have you with me.
Mark Levin: Rebecca, the joy is all mine. You have a fantastic organization. You do fantastic thing things for the members who join your organization. You’ve been a sponsor for many, years now, and we could not be more honored.
It’s my pleasure to be here.
Rebecca Weber: thank you that is, the greatest compliment. I appreciate that so much. I wanna jump right in, sir, and talk about your book. This is an incredible book, American Marxism. I’ve read the book, everyone listening, if you haven’t read the book, you’ve gotta read the book.
It is an eyeopener. it’s an incredible book, American Marxism, but you detail how Marxist ideology has quietly infiltrated American institutions from academia to the media to government. So can you give our audience some examples how Marxist ideology has really threatened our American way of life, especially those four years under Joe Biden?
Mark Levin: it’s a great question. the funny thing is if people understand just a little bit about Marx, it’s all over the place. People talk like Marxists, they act like Marxists and many of them don’t know it. The Democrat Party and the media do know it. Basically, it comes down to this. We patriotic Americans who believe in this country.
We believe in the Judeo-Christian value system. We believe in the reformation. We believe in, individual liberty as explained in the Declaration of Independence, that it comes from God and we experience it through reason and natural law. That’s the declaration we believe the Constitution is built on that concept that is.
The import, the sovereign of the individual, but you have to protect individuals from other individuals. And so that’s the issue. Where does your Li Liberty begin? and where does it end? It ends in my nose. You’ve heard the lines. So the constitution’s absolute genius. It’s built to protect the individual.
It’s built to promote the civil society, and it’s built to maximize liberty. The other side though, doesn’t believe in any of that. You never hear them talk about liberty. You remember Barack Obama would take God out of the Declaration of Independence. They believe that mankind on earth determines everything.
They believe that this whole idea of natural rights and unalienable rights, it’s mysticism, it’s a farce. It’s something that was believed 200 and some years ago. It has no application. Today we are a. Modern society. We are a technological society, so forget about the past. Forget about all that stuff. We gotta focus on where we want to take the country and we control where we’re going to go.
Now, this is the ideology of a Marx or a Hagel, where Rousseau is not the ideology of a Locke or Montesquieu, who our founders relied on. In fact, it’s a complete repudiation of American history. Which is why I’m being long-winded, but which is why they attack American history. They pull down our symbols.
They teach CRT, the 1619 project. They tell you that the constitution is old or it’s too white or it’s too, whatever it is. Woodrow Wilson used to say, forget about the Declaration of Independence. It’s utterly meaningless. And so who do they follow now? They follow a Bernie Sanders. What is he? So Marxist, Bernie Sanders went to a kibbutz in Israel that was a Stalinist kibbutz.
It wasn’t even a mainstream communist kibbutz. Who do they follow? A OC? What is she? Democratic Socialist Marx used to say Socialists are halfway Marxist on their way to becoming Marxist. So this is what the Democrat party is. They never talk about the declaration. They attack the constitution, except when they’re waving it around to try and undermine.
The opposition party and people they disagree with. American Marxism is in our schools. It’s being taught K through 12 through the teacher’s unions. It’s in our colleges and universities. I call it the fusion between Marxism and Islamism as opposed to Muslimism. Islamism radical. And, and violent, and it’s in Europe.
It’s in their capitals too. So it’s all around us. Everything we do, everything we hear. Hold on, I’m sorry. I’ve got a little asthma. Everything we do, everything we hear. Frederick von Macy’s was a brilliant economist at a Austrian school, and he wrote what I started the program off with.
We all talk like Marxists. even we talk like Mark, we talk about the middle class. There is no class that’s Marks. We talk about the working class. Okay? We talk about the rich versus the poor, the tax code, redistribution of wealth. That is not what America was founded on, but it is the language of the hard left.
Rebecca Weber: it certainly seems that there are, there’s much, many more people are vocal. We see stronger pushback from conservatives and liberty minded Americans, and I credit, our president Donald Trump, with having the courage to call things out like they are. For example, we shouldn’t be teaching our children that they’re born in the wrong body.
We shouldn’t be, celebrating, abortion in the ninth month. There’s so much. I think that if people just go back to right from wrong. And I think you, it’s easier to know right from wrong when you do believe in a all good and loving creator God. but it does seem that the left, is, moving further and further away from, those basic, fundamental Christian Judeo values as you put it.
And in instead are adopting a new religion, is what I’ve been calling it, because it feels like it’s a new religion. They wanna worship themselves and they wanna forget about the values that make this country great. I wanna shift quickly to talk about what we’re seeing on the judiciary side of things.
We, we saw recent debates really intensifying over the role and the accountability of the, judiciary, and I specifically Chief Justice Roberts and his remarks. I’d love to get your perspective on the balance between judicial independence and constitutional oversight.
Mark Levin: I’m all for judicial independence.
The attack on the Supreme Court by the left, particularly the constitutionalists on the court, is repugnant. The desire to pack the court by increasing its numbers and turn it into some kind of pull up bureau. That’s all well and good. The framers believe that too, but what the framers did not believe. Is in, a judicial tyranny that is, when you read the Constitution and you read the Federalist papers, they kept talking about how this is the weakest branch.
All these lower courts are created by Congress. They’re not in the Constitution. The powers they exercise are not in the Constitution. They’re granted by the Judiciary Act, of Congress as well. this whole thing about judicial review, we take it for granted, but we shouldn’t. It was created in 18 0 0 3 by a decision Marbury v Madison, and of course the Chief Justice was Marshall, who’d been the Secretary of State for Adams.
And Adams put Marshall on as Chief Justice three weeks before he left office. And Marshall hated Jefferson and Jefferson’s party won the presidency, the house and the Senate. So Marshall being extraordinarily political, he decided, you know what? We have to have pushback. And since we have the Supreme Court, the pushback is going to be, we get to decide in the final instance what is or is not constitutional.
That was a massive revolution. The constitution would never have been adopted, period. Certainly wasn’t written to support that. As for what this court’s doing today, these judges are doing today, they are not judges. They are left wing Democrat lawyers. who, who got through the Senate process, whom the overwhelming majority of people never heard of before, who obviously don’t stand for election.
They don’t stand for anything. They just work their way through the system. And now they sit there one at a time, but maybe two or three freshly graduated law school students, now lawyers as law clerks. And they sit there and they say, you know what? I don’t like what Donald Trump’s doing here. I don’t like what Donald Trump’s doing there.
It is a judicial. Despotism, it’s being done by scores of these judges. And Chuck Schumer himself said, last weekend, I put 235 judges on the court. Yeah, progressives. I put ’em there in case Trump gets elected to thwart Trump. This is a huge constitutional moment, not because of what they and the media say.
It’s because they are changing the balance of power significantly and turning us into a judicial tyranny.
Rebecca Weber: So if, unelected judges, they don’t like Trump, what Trump is doing, which is beyond, I think a basic common sense, it’s absolute stupidity that you would want gang members roaming the streets of our neighborhoods.
This is just, it’s unbelievable that a judge. would be fighting against that. But if unelected judges can usurp our authority really, and a foundational principle of our constitution, how do we really prevent this from happening on an ongoing basis?
Mark Levin: that’s the great issue. number one, they letting these gangsters out and these other things they’re doing for them, a period of lawlessness and despotism is fine.
That’s what Mark said in the Communist Manifesto. They’re looking at the big game, which is. We can have elections, but when they get in the way of our grand scheme, which is a top-down government, then we have to find ways your word, a good word to usurp them. What do we do about these judges? there are things we can do, actually.
Number one, these judges are created by Congress. So quote unquote uncreate them. You can abolish a few of these judges in a few of these courtrooms. You have to get it through the Senate. They have a filibuster rule, and so that will be a problem. That said, I’ve already told Jim Jordan and others to figure out a way to apply it to some kind of spending or budget reconciliation act.
This is all mealy mouth for Washington DC to get around the filibuster. That’s number one. Number two. You can also take jurisdiction away from them. The jurisdiction that they had was granted to them. these congressionally created judges. You can do that as well. I said, just pick a few like this guy boberg and abolish them and tell ’em why you’re abolishing them, because you’re destroying our constitutional construct.
One judge sitting in his conference room with two law clerks doesn’t get to decide. Foreign policy, human resources, policy, funding policy, and so forth and so on. You have a president who goes through this incredible process, this difficult process where he is out with the people where he se where he secures their votes, where he wins this election and goes on and on and on.
Then you have some judges sitting there who thinks he’s more powerful than the Supreme Court. You need a majority on the Supreme Court to make a decision. You got this guy sitting there and just saying, nah, I don’t think so. Boom, boom, Five pages. And by the way, you violated my order. I may hold you in contempt, Mr.
President, this is, upside down so you can have tyranny by the judiciary. We have it here now. We have it in Israel. We have in parts in Europe. You can have tyranny by the legislature, Jefferson talked about, or you can have tyranny by a president or a single person comes in many forms. Our tyranny right now is the form of all these.
Democrat, progressive Schumer, Biden, Obama, Clinton trial judges.
Rebecca Weber: Yes. Yeah, that’s exactly what we see happening. And you really outline it well in your book, American Marxism, you argue that Marxist ideas, they don’t just creep into our institutions, but they’re aggressively pushed. Pushed by legacy Media really is a propaganda arm.
They shape narratives, they silence, dissent. And you have been a relentless voice warning about media bias and big tech censorship because, mark, when we just hear about this judge and what he, his comments about, turn the plane around, not, liking Trump’s what Trump is doing to keep Americans safe.
They wanna create sound bite bites around that. They want the American people just to hear little bits and pieces get confused, not quite understand what’s happening, and the left. And legacy media, they wanna smear Trump in any way they can. This is why it’s so important that people are tuning into your show, listening to your radio show, and tuning in and renewing with AMAC.
But, how do we ensure that we’re not at the edge? Or are we at the edge of losing free speech in America for good? What do we do, to, draw a hard line in the sand and say, no, we’ve gotta speak the truth and save our first amendment Of free speech
Mark Levin: first. You make a great point.
First, let’s look at free speech. First of all, free speech is the glue that holds this society together. That’s why in all these totalitarian regimes or something close, they go after language. They go after words, they change them. They invent new ones in service to the state. You can see that happening in our country somehow a Hamas supporter who shouldn’t have been here in the first place.
Who is a leader of these riotous activities at Columbia University, Khalil, somehow that’s free speech. But if you go on social media and you want to complain about a vaccine or something like that, whether or not you agree with them somehow, that is to be restricted disinformation, and that’s the nature of Marxism.
In other words, speech is fine as long as you agree with it, but, otherwise you gotta destroy it. free speech is a very, important, idea and very important notion now. It’s not by accident that free speech and freedom of the press are in the same amendment. Now, by freedom of the press, our press is free.
But what are they doing? They’re not providing information. They’re not providing knowledge, they’re not alerting the American people to the serious dangers in government. They’re mouthpieces for the Democrat party and there are mouthpieces for that ideology. I wrote another book. I wrote a lot of them called Unfreedom of the Press, and I go through the how.
The Democrat party basically populates the press. So this whole thing about Marxism, people need to remember the goal is to conquer the culture, destroy free speech, freedom of association, academic freedom, threaten, use social pressure, woke him. This all comes outta the same thing. You were talking earlier about, abortion and things of that sort Destroy the nuclear family.
Destroy all these moorings to faith, to family. All these other social constructs destroy them. Why? ’cause the world begins today. And these masterminds and these leaders of the Democrat Party and the media and so forth, they’re the masterminds. Why are they smart? No, most of ’em are actually quite stupid.
It’s just that they grab the power to do it. It’s all about power. That’s the bottom line. Power. And they’re power hungry. And that’s what Marx was. And Hagon, all these guys, power hungry. So the bottom line is when it comes to free speech, they don’t believe in free speech. They are changing our words. you can’t, you, you can’t call a woman, you have a, Supreme Court justice who humiliated herself and probably doesn’t even think she did. she wouldn’t define what a woman is. Yeah. So you can see how poisonous and ubiquitous this is. You’re
Rebecca Weber: exactly right. It sure is. And Mark, before you run, I have a final question I wanna talk about.
Sort of, where US interests and media narratives collide, and that is Israel’s fight for survival. Now, you’ve spoken about the historical and legal foundations of Israel’s right to exist. how do you think media bias and political narratives have really distorted the truth about Israel’s self-defense and what can be done to correct these misconceptions?
Mark Levin: It’s the same thing, oppressor versus oppressed. If Israel. Let me put it to this way. Before Israel had its own strong army, including an air force and all the rest, and it was surrounded, and when they were attacked, the media supported Israel 50 years ago. Now that Israel, because it’s a, quasi capitalist, quasi free society given the actions of their judiciary over there, but it’s certainly a, an open society.
They’ve been able to build up its military, build up its intelligence systems, they’re able to defeat their enemy and now they’re the oppressor. So in the Marxist, Islamist mind and I say there’s a fusion going on of the two, ’cause they both reject what you and I and your and our viewers support. Israel’s the oppressor.
Israel’s, the imperialist and the colonialist. Israel’s taking land that doesn’t belong to land. Israel’s killing people. Our media fall right in line because our media is part of this whole American Marxist ideology. As I say, it’s seeped through all these institutions and for them they need to conquer the culture and they have conquered the culture.
We don’t have a free press. The press is free to say whatever it wants, but we don’t have a free press. It is essentially a state press, and I don’t mean whoever the president is. It is a state press. It represents the bureaucracy, it represents the unelected judges, it represents, the ideology, it pushes it through, and you even have some professors who are foolish enough but helpful to us to say.
Today, the media cannot be objective or seek objectivity. It has to take a side, and it has to take the side of the Democrats and the radical left ideologues. That’s what they’re being taught in journalism school today.
Rebecca Weber: we just so appreciate your time here with us and all of our AMAC members.
They’re, huge fans of your show. Mark, thank you so much as always, because you do continue to. Really, bring clarity and you cut through the noise on everything. so we appreciate your time. This was a lot to think about and I hope to have you back with me again soon.
Mark Levin: Let me just say this, your organization, AMAC, is a fantastic organization.
It is such a thrill to talk about them and I talk about them because as I’m a member in addition to these fantastic benefits and dis I’m telling you, I’ve used them and they are fantastic. Your presence in Washington is absolutely critical. Critical. You’re pushing against, the 800 pound gorilla, the A RP.
That doesn’t represent me or the vast majority of this country. A lot of people hook up with them because they like the benefits and discounts. let me tell you something. You get better benefits and discounts from you folks, plus you promote our belief system. I will not have a sponsor in my program that I don’t share.
The values, the beliefs and principles with, and you guys are fantastic. And now I know why. Rebecca, I just met you. You’re fantastic. I appreciate it.
Rebecca Weber: thank you. Thank you so much. I feel exactly the same for you. You are a hero. keep up the good fight. And for all of you out there listening, if you really enjoyed this, please get your hands on a copy of Mark’s book.
He’s got a lot of books out there. American Marxism was my most favorite. just read it for a sec, reading it for a second time. Almost done with it. Through for the second time. Just a great book, great insight, a really deep dive into the battles that are out there. be sure to tell your friends and family all about AMAC folks.
Until next time, keep questioning, keep fighting, and we’ll see you on the airways. I’m Rebecca Weber. Have a blessed day everyone.
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Evil people, once in power, do evil things. This is written large throughout history. I used to ask myself how seemingly intelligent, educated people could possibly embrace Marxism? I struggled with the answer for a long time. But, the answer is quite simple, actually. Those people think they are way above the common folks, and therefor, are fit to rule over them. The means to do that – which justifies the end – is the myth of Socialism/Communism. “We’re all equal, but some are more equal than others.”
I fully agree with Mark Levin.
I would argue that the Protestant revolt against Catholicism is the primary reason the U.S. has become filled with Marxists.
The country was not founded upon true Christianity but acceptance of all kinds of heretical teachings about Christ. And its freedom of religion is actually the path to the indifferentism and rejection of religious truth.
Note neither the Constitution or the Declaration of Independence mentions Christ. The inalienable rights outlined are not cited as specifically Christian while the “pursuit of happiness” is not explained because if it was they would have to have said that true happiness comes from following God’s laws and His will for each individual.
If you believe in God you can’t support freedom of speech as understood in America because that understanding gives lies and errors valid. No one has a right to tell lies about God.