I think that a child born in the USA should only become a citizen if the parents are US citizens or applied to become US citizens.
Patricia O'Rourke
4 years ago
If a parent is here legally, working towards their citizenship – then any child born after the awarding of their citizenship should receive citizenship, any child conceived and born prior to the parent being accepted to legally enter or the receipt of their citizenship should be provided the means to be naturalized. If you are visiting or here illegally there is no citizenship granted, no offspring are granted citizenship. There will be a 10 year restriction on any application for citizenship and application can only be made from the home country after proof of 10 year residency. If you fail to return to your home country within 6 months and wait for the restriction to be lifted then you are permanently banned and will be deported immediately, all children and spouses will be deported immediately. Marriage no longer grants automatic citizenship if you have failed to apply for the appropriate documents to grant citizenship. if you marry an illegal immigrant without first applying for their citizenship/fiance visa then you risk your spouse and children being deported and you being jailed.
Anne
4 years ago
If birthright citizenship were enabled my parents would not have been US citizens as both sets of my grandparents came from Italy. I am only the second generation born in the United States. Oh, by the way, all of my grand parents became US citizens and learned to speak and read English. There is no excuse for all the immigrants that come to this country not to become citizens and learn to speak English. Why is everything in English and Spanish? When my people came here, the government didn’t put every thing in English and Italian? The greed monster has taken over the process of people becoming citizens and has corrupted it. Let us encourage and make becoming a citizen not just available for those who can afford lawyers but to every immigrant that comes to American and wants to become a part of this great nation. My grandparents came and contributed.
I like to believe one of their most valuable contributions to this country was me!
Joseph Meissner
4 years ago
You should earn citizenship. If born in US, you get a resident status with all the obligations and pay all taxes. But you are not eligible to vote or run for office until you have passed citizenship test. This should be in English,. It can have subtitles in other languages. But the point is that ignorant people while they can stay in US since they are born here, should not be able to cast votes when they are ignorant of our government, history, and laws.
Andy
4 years ago
No child of any illegal immigrant or people coming here on visas while they are pregnant with the intent of having your child here to be an American citizen should be denied citizenship. And by intent if you come here in the 8th or 9th month of your pregnancy that is intent to have your child here.
GEK
4 years ago
It is very clear constitutionally if you revere our exceptional American experiment that guarantees the unequal sharing of prosperity vs the equal sharing of misery. Cloward-Pivin strategy in action: “Political strategy outlined in 1966 by American sociologists and political activists Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven that called for overloading the U.S. public welfare system in order to precipitate a crisis that would lead to a replacement of the welfare system with a national system of “a guaranteed annual income and thus an end to poverty”.
Tom Fugate
4 years ago
The difficulty to answer this is that there no correct answer, we have now where illegals marry citizens and then have kids to be come na naturalized within the States or State side. We also have many citizens marry outside of country and want spouses to be naturalized.
John Cann
4 years ago
The Constitution is clear. There is no need to debate this point.
Stuart McDonald
4 years ago
I believe the 14th amendment will be interpreted correctly in the coming months. Out of that will come sensible immigration law.
Settling this thorny issue will be one of the highlights of Trump’s legacy.
david c mitchell
4 years ago
the poll does not give all responses or choices that could apply. I will not answer because my choice is not there. “A child born to only legal citizens of the US will be granted citizenship”. I am already a member of Amac.
BajaRon
4 years ago
How about we just follow the original language and intent of the 14th amendment. Wouldn’t that be a novel approach! It provides NO automatic citizenship for the child of someone who has broken the law to be here in the first place.
Thomas O'Dowd
4 years ago
Follow the Law. If it is a bad Law repeal it. Having a process from which people all over the world can come to the United States, and maybe become citizens, and enforcing all the laws created to do that, is the one of many ways to Preserve and Defend These Great United States.
Marcia Standifer, CDR, USPHS, Ret.
4 years ago
The 14th was actually enacted primarily to enable the slaves/former slaves to be considered citizens. The American Indians, having their allegiance to each of their sovereign tribal groups within the U.S., were NOT included in this amendment. They did not receive citizenship right until a separate act in 1924, essentially giving them DUAL citizenship in their tribe and the United States.
It is interesting to read the deliberations and comments of the authors of the 14th Amendment back in 1866-68:
Michigan Senator Jacob M. Howard’s statement —
“This amendment which I have offered is simply declaratory of what I regard as the law of the land already, that every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of [a]mbassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country.”
How clear is that??!
Wm. T. Garfinkel
4 years ago
We need to go back to the legislative intent. It was to ensure citizenship to slaves born in the United States. So, unless your a slave born in the United States, your not a citizen.
Jimmy Smith
4 years ago
Where is the money WE gave to the country these people just came FROM??????
Gina
4 years ago
The purpose of the 14 amendment was to recognize citizenship for the newly-freed slaves (but not members of Indian tribes living on reservations). The language of the Citizenship Clause derived from the Civil Rights Act of 1866, enacted by the same legislators (the 39th Congress) who framed the 14th Amendment. The Civil Rights Act of 1866 conferred citizenship on “All persons born in the United States, and not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed.” Foreign nationals resident in the United States, and children who become citizens of a foreign country at birth (by virtue of their parents’ citizenship) would obviously be excluded from this definition.
The language of the Citizenship Clause deviates slightly from that of the Civil Rights Act of 1866, but there is no compelling evidence that the 39th Congress intended a different meaning. In fact, the sponsor of the Citizenship Clause, Senator Jacob Howard (R-MI), stated that its language “is simply declaratory of what I regard as the law of the land already,” explaining that “This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, [or] who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers.”
Clive B
4 years ago
I had to work very hard for my Greencard and subsequently my U.S. citizenship. Hey, I should have waited, walked across the border and demanded ‘my civil rights’. No lawyers fees and government handouts.
Mel
4 years ago
Stop the money flow. When these babies are born, they start getting assistance from Medicaid and other welfare programs. Then momma, because she takes care of the baby, gets on welfare programs. Then the rest of the family shows up and reaps the benefits because the baby is a citizen of the U.S. Any older children get to enroll in public school for free. If they stay long enough, college will be free. The cost to the U.S. taxpayer is huge. This is only the tip of the iceberg. STOP the entitlements !! This action would take care of a large part of the immigration problem.
John Blackwelder
4 years ago
Actually I prefer it to be “Only persons born to parents that are legally in the United States; and have permanent residence status, or are in the process of becoming citizens of the United States, or have at least one parent that is a citizen (and in good standing) of the United States, shall be granted automatic citizenship.”
Gary
4 years ago
Why is this even an issue? The law is the law. If people are entering the USA illegally, it’s against the law and they need to be sent back, period! Do as millions have done before, and they would be welcomed. This is nothing but another liberal stunt to swell the democratic votes. The crazy and sick liberals have no respect for anything but their own dumb and selfish agenda. I hope they fail spectacularly tomorrow in the mid-term election. I for one was not going to vote early because I want my vote to count on election day. I hope there are a million people that think like me, just to watch CNN squirm.
Ernest Conklin
4 years ago
Before the war in Lebanon the US Embassy was adjacent to the American University of Beirut campus where I worked. Embassy employees told me many times where women in labor would be lifted up over the fence and let down on US soil (Embassy grounds) just hoping they would give birth there so that their child would have American citizenship. Not what our forefathers had in mind.
Russell Wenke
4 years ago
I see an overwhelming number of people opposing birthright citizenship, primarily based on births to illegal aliens. I personally disagree. There should be NO illegal aliens on our soil, so that is not a valid argument unless you intend to eliminate control of our borders. Who else will be denied citizenship? If you eliminate birthright, we are back to where we were in the 1800s. I can only produce citizenship papers for one grandparent so how do I qualify? (I can trace my ancestry back to both the Civil and Revolutionary Wars.) This could open a MASSIVE can of worms. Anyone who has not actually gone thru the citizenship process could be challenged and sent back to the country of their ancestors, if that can even be determined.
JFButterer
4 years ago
Forget the Executive Order crap, it won’t fly. T can’t amend the Constitution that way, he’ll just come off as a fool, again. He’s his own biggest enemy.
Mark
4 years ago
Citizen ship is erned, not given.
Randall Keith
4 years ago
No child should be automatically a citizen just because a girl ran across the border and then gave birth. NO person who is not a legal citizen of the United States should EVER receive ANY U.S. government benefits, no matter their health, condition or number of babies. Medicaid, Welfare, food stamp cards, etc. are abused enough already by LEGAL citizens. We (the life-long tax payers) simply cannot afford it.
Bob R
4 years ago
This one was easy. Its what the Constitution says. Some say it’s the “Rule of laws”. The problem is some folks treat the constitution as an attractive mistress!
Neal B
4 years ago
You should not be granted citizenship, simply because your mother was able to get into the USA prior to your being born. You need to have one US citizen as a parent, to be eligible for US citizenship at birth. There are legal ways for adults to become US Citizens, there are ways to become permanent resident aliens (green cards), and there are ways to obtain Asylum or reques Refugee status and begin the path to citizenship that way. These methods are all in place already, and will continue to be ways for people to become US Citizens or legal residents of the US which is a close second. People should not however be able to have citizenship confered simply because they were born in the US, because that circumvents our LAWS and the US Constitution. It has been “de-facto” law that they are granted citizenship for being born here, but not actual law to my recollection. Once we return to the rule of law, and prohibit babies born in the US having citizenship conferred automatically – the border should slow down considerably. We do however still need a wall across our South AND our North borders. The North border can be done second, but it also needs to have a fence because as soon as we finish the Southern fence they would begin coming in through the Northern one in high volumes and we don’t have the manpower up there to handle it. We have far too much illegal drugs coming in, and far too many illeal aliens coming across the border every day. The fence will greatly reduce this volume, and make it easier to track those who do come across illegally. The border by the Rio Grande needs the fence built immediately, because they can cross into US waters drop off their cargo and be back in Mexican waters in under 5 minutes. With the proper fence, cameras, etc. they would no longer be able to bring their cargo into the US so dang easily. It is wrong that we continue to allow this illegal entry into our nation, when virtually every other nation, INCLUDING Mexico has a strong border with their other neighbors. Mexico doesn’t have a good border fence/wall with us, because they LIKE the fact that we allow so many illegals, so much illegal drugs, and so forth into our country through the border. It’s good for their economy, good for their food stamps or whatever they have down there – thousands and thousands of Mexicans come across the border for various reasons and earn their money here in the US and then take it back to Mexico and support their families or whatever else. If it didn’t benefit Mexico, I guarantee you that they would have already built a wall/fence on their Northern border just like they already did on their Southern border. For anyone who thinks it is “legal” for non citizens to enter the US, look up “8 U.S. Code § 1325 – Improper entry by alien”. It clearly lays out the fine and prison time for the first and for subsequent offences of 8 US Code 1325.
RayL
4 years ago
Seems like we’re closing the barn door after the horse escaped. There are hundreds of thousands of foreigners with “American Birthright Citizen” children in the world who will take advantage of this in the near future. Add “Chain Immigration” to that, and the United States of America will be unrecognizable in 50 years or so. We are our own worst enemy.
Croaker
4 years ago
Children born to American parents and raised in America can be expected to enculturated as American citizens and to be economically productive and reasonably civic-minded for their entire lives. Anchor babies and chain migration result in claims by some non productive persons to collect unearned welfare benefits and result in some criminals and ideological fanatics who hate America doing us harm.
Immigration should be like a job application: only persons who are young and educated enough to be law-abiding, tax-paying, civic-minded, net economic contributors should be accepted for the job of American citizen.
Patriot
4 years ago
The former Democrat base of working people are now largely voting Republican as the Progressives and Socialists try to take power. This bunch wants millions more voters to accept their agenda. Open borders will provide them with the base they need. People from third world countries know nothing about our political system or our values. They just want to survive any way they can. This is the greatest threat to our Democracy. All great Empires were taken down from within. We need to be very cautious about who becomes a citizen. The majority of food stamps, HUD housing, cash assistance and free medical are given to the children of illegals. They also get free education and can collect Disability Social Security without ever paying into the system. Overseeing all these benefits requires a huge expensive Bureaucracy. We cannot afford to subsidize these hoards of people, nor can we house more criminal aliens.
John Boltik
4 years ago
about time the Supremes took a crack at birthright citizenship…….and the is what POTUS is starting by the exec. order!
Glenn Baker
4 years ago
Automatic birthright citizenship was never part of the constitution
Sharon Botto
4 years ago
f I went to Greece, regardless of the reason: relocation or vacation and while there delivered a child – that newborn WOULD NOT BE A GREEK CITIZEN!!
Michelle Dostie
4 years ago
Persons who establish their domicile in the USA, that is their intention to stay and have a residence in the USA, are subject to our jurisdiction. Their children born here should therefore be citizens, notwithstanding that the 14th Amendment was not written for their well being. Children born to parents who are here temporarily, woth no intention to reside here, do not have that same right. They are citizens of their parents’ country of origin.
Gary Albert
4 years ago
I think there needs to be more choices. However, just because someone is born in our country should not give that same privilege to the illegal parents
Don B.
4 years ago
I SURELY HOPE THAT THE POLLS ARE PUSHED TO THE LIMITS BY EVERY CITIZEN WHO IS “QUALIFIED” TO VOTE AND SELECTS EVERY GOP CANDIDATE OR INDEPENDENT WHO HAS SUPPORTED OUR PRESIDENT! THE RADICAL, LIBERAL, SOCIALIST PUKES NEED TO GO! ONLY THOSE AND IDIOTS ARE BEING LED BY THE NOSE AND GEORGE SOROS, ET. AL., IS PROBABLY LAUGHING THEIR ARSES OFF. I TRULY BELIEVE THAT THE CARAVAN OF NON-AMERICANS HAVE BEEN HOODWINKED INTO BELIEVING THE STREETS ARE PAVED IN GOLD AND HAVE NO IDEA OF WHAT AWAITS THEM, AND THAT’S SAD…
I PRAY FOR MY COUNTRY AND PRESIDENT EVERY DAY AND AS A 26 YEAR ARMY VET, WE NEED OUR COUNTRY TO CONTINUE TO GO IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AS IT HAS BEEN SINCE 2016.
Tom
4 years ago
I’m not sure if it was Jacob Howard, but I did read somewhere that the mother had to be a citizen.
Hugh
4 years ago
Birthright citizenship should mean that only children of legitimate U.S. Citizens should be U.S. citizens, whether they are born inside the geographic boundaries of the country or outside. My former wife was born in Munich of U.S. citizens, her father was serving overseas in the U.S. Army. She’s clearly a U.S. citizen no matter where she was born. But illegal aliens who sneak into the United States should NOT be able to pop out an “anchor baby” and then drag the whole family into America to claim social welfare. Those benefits are paid for by legal, tax-paying citizens. We cannot pay for everyone in the world to have U.S. citizenship and welfare. The Democrat-Socialists want to hand out citizenship to everyone, so the new “pseudo-citizens” will vote for Democrats who will keep giving them welfare paid out of our treasury. This must stop!
Patty
4 years ago
I believe BOTH parents of a child should be US citizens and should be MARRIED to one another before a child can be declared a US citizen. Any other way makes the situation too easy to get people into this country that are NOT US citizens….we need to get a serious hold on this!!!
Ken Peterson
4 years ago
Why do we keep shooting ourselves in the foot. Most other countries do not allow birth right citizenship, it is an insane idea.
Walter
4 years ago
If the parents are here illegally, and are therefore not citizens of our Country, our Constitution does not apply to them. Period.
James
4 years ago
OK. Here’s what the first sentence of the 14th amendment says verbatim “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States, and of the State wherein they reside.” There is nothing in that statement at all about the parents. It is quite straightforward. Unless you want to try to stretch the meaning of “being subject to the jurisdiction thereof” so that it suits your preference you must concede that it clearly provides for anyone born here regardless of anything else. However, I couldn’t find anything in the articles of the Constitution defining citizenship. The only references to citizenship prior to the amendments to the Constitution were in the articles specifying that a person must be a citizen to be in congress and must be natural born citizen to be president. If anyone knows any clause in the articles of the Constitution prior to the amendments that defines citizenship please let me know. That being said, I don’t like it at all that people abuse that provision of our Constitution by coming into our country illegally, have babies so that the children will be citizens and then use the children to appeal to the humanitarian and benevolent nature of the people of the United States in order to continue to stay illegally. We don’t need a presidential executive order contrary to the Constitution to remedy this problem. People here illegally should be made to leave and if they had children while here illegally they should take the children with them whether the children are citizens or not. That’s all.
Trap
4 years ago
Hard to believe this one is not a 100% vote for at least one parent being a true American citizen. oh well
God Bless America
Trap
mark
4 years ago
After working with the USBP for many years I see that this is not the only thing that needs repealing, FOR SURE!
John Garcia
4 years ago
I have heard of US citizens going to other countries and bringing back children to adopt and make us citizens. Then turn child over to others to raise. Childs parents cross into us later on.
Then US citizens go back for another child or two and repeat. Is this legal or moral?
William Meeks
4 years ago
Only to those children who are born to both parents who are citizens of the United States. Otherwise we end up with the parents and relatives of the non citizen parent living and voting Illegally as noncitizens of the United States.
bassman
4 years ago
WE HAVE less than 3 days to go. We have GOT TO STICK WITH OUR PRESIDENT GET OUT AND VOTE FOR EVERY REPUBLICAN. WE CAN’T LET THE DEMTURD COMMUNIST. GET IN TO POWER. THEY WILL DESTROY OUR COUNTRY. SPREAD THE WORD VOTE REPUBLICAN. GOD BE WITH US. Keep spreading the word……. VOTE RED………
Brett Morton
4 years ago
It is so very obvious that the demon rats have gone over to the dark side.
They care only for power and the ability to fundamentally
change America into a socialist state. Therefore, they will say and do anything to achieve
that goal, including allowing non-native species of peoples to flood our borders.
They have no moral compass with which to guide them.
Oh Lord, please help us!!!
Sheryl Calderon
4 years ago
I agree with Harvey Rich. The way the first option is worded it appeared to exclude legal immigrants. I am for allowing citizenship to those born to LEGAL immigrants, but not to ILLEGAL immigrants.
I think that a child born in the USA should only become a citizen if the parents are US citizens or applied to become US citizens.
If a parent is here legally, working towards their citizenship – then any child born after the awarding of their citizenship should receive citizenship, any child conceived and born prior to the parent being accepted to legally enter or the receipt of their citizenship should be provided the means to be naturalized. If you are visiting or here illegally there is no citizenship granted, no offspring are granted citizenship. There will be a 10 year restriction on any application for citizenship and application can only be made from the home country after proof of 10 year residency. If you fail to return to your home country within 6 months and wait for the restriction to be lifted then you are permanently banned and will be deported immediately, all children and spouses will be deported immediately. Marriage no longer grants automatic citizenship if you have failed to apply for the appropriate documents to grant citizenship. if you marry an illegal immigrant without first applying for their citizenship/fiance visa then you risk your spouse and children being deported and you being jailed.
If birthright citizenship were enabled my parents would not have been US citizens as both sets of my grandparents came from Italy. I am only the second generation born in the United States. Oh, by the way, all of my grand parents became US citizens and learned to speak and read English. There is no excuse for all the immigrants that come to this country not to become citizens and learn to speak English. Why is everything in English and Spanish? When my people came here, the government didn’t put every thing in English and Italian? The greed monster has taken over the process of people becoming citizens and has corrupted it. Let us encourage and make becoming a citizen not just available for those who can afford lawyers but to every immigrant that comes to American and wants to become a part of this great nation. My grandparents came and contributed.
I like to believe one of their most valuable contributions to this country was me!
You should earn citizenship. If born in US, you get a resident status with all the obligations and pay all taxes. But you are not eligible to vote or run for office until you have passed citizenship test. This should be in English,. It can have subtitles in other languages. But the point is that ignorant people while they can stay in US since they are born here, should not be able to cast votes when they are ignorant of our government, history, and laws.
No child of any illegal immigrant or people coming here on visas while they are pregnant with the intent of having your child here to be an American citizen should be denied citizenship. And by intent if you come here in the 8th or 9th month of your pregnancy that is intent to have your child here.
It is very clear constitutionally if you revere our exceptional American experiment that guarantees the unequal sharing of prosperity vs the equal sharing of misery. Cloward-Pivin strategy in action: “Political strategy outlined in 1966 by American sociologists and political activists Richard Cloward and Frances Fox Piven that called for overloading the U.S. public welfare system in order to precipitate a crisis that would lead to a replacement of the welfare system with a national system of “a guaranteed annual income and thus an end to poverty”.
The difficulty to answer this is that there no correct answer, we have now where illegals marry citizens and then have kids to be come na naturalized within the States or State side. We also have many citizens marry outside of country and want spouses to be naturalized.
The Constitution is clear. There is no need to debate this point.
I believe the 14th amendment will be interpreted correctly in the coming months. Out of that will come sensible immigration law.
Settling this thorny issue will be one of the highlights of Trump’s legacy.
the poll does not give all responses or choices that could apply. I will not answer because my choice is not there. “A child born to only legal citizens of the US will be granted citizenship”. I am already a member of Amac.
How about we just follow the original language and intent of the 14th amendment. Wouldn’t that be a novel approach! It provides NO automatic citizenship for the child of someone who has broken the law to be here in the first place.
Follow the Law. If it is a bad Law repeal it. Having a process from which people all over the world can come to the United States, and maybe become citizens, and enforcing all the laws created to do that, is the one of many ways to Preserve and Defend These Great United States.
The 14th was actually enacted primarily to enable the slaves/former slaves to be considered citizens. The American Indians, having their allegiance to each of their sovereign tribal groups within the U.S., were NOT included in this amendment. They did not receive citizenship right until a separate act in 1924, essentially giving them DUAL citizenship in their tribe and the United States.
It is interesting to read the deliberations and comments of the authors of the 14th Amendment back in 1866-68:
Michigan Senator Jacob M. Howard’s statement —
“This amendment which I have offered is simply declaratory of what I regard as the law of the land already, that every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of [a]mbassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country.”
How clear is that??!
We need to go back to the legislative intent. It was to ensure citizenship to slaves born in the United States. So, unless your a slave born in the United States, your not a citizen.
Where is the money WE gave to the country these people just came FROM??????
The purpose of the 14 amendment was to recognize citizenship for the newly-freed slaves (but not members of Indian tribes living on reservations). The language of the Citizenship Clause derived from the Civil Rights Act of 1866, enacted by the same legislators (the 39th Congress) who framed the 14th Amendment. The Civil Rights Act of 1866 conferred citizenship on “All persons born in the United States, and not subject to any foreign power, excluding Indians not taxed.” Foreign nationals resident in the United States, and children who become citizens of a foreign country at birth (by virtue of their parents’ citizenship) would obviously be excluded from this definition.
The language of the Citizenship Clause deviates slightly from that of the Civil Rights Act of 1866, but there is no compelling evidence that the 39th Congress intended a different meaning. In fact, the sponsor of the Citizenship Clause, Senator Jacob Howard (R-MI), stated that its language “is simply declaratory of what I regard as the law of the land already,” explaining that “This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, [or] who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers.”
I had to work very hard for my Greencard and subsequently my U.S. citizenship. Hey, I should have waited, walked across the border and demanded ‘my civil rights’. No lawyers fees and government handouts.
Stop the money flow. When these babies are born, they start getting assistance from Medicaid and other welfare programs. Then momma, because she takes care of the baby, gets on welfare programs. Then the rest of the family shows up and reaps the benefits because the baby is a citizen of the U.S. Any older children get to enroll in public school for free. If they stay long enough, college will be free. The cost to the U.S. taxpayer is huge. This is only the tip of the iceberg. STOP the entitlements !! This action would take care of a large part of the immigration problem.
Actually I prefer it to be “Only persons born to parents that are legally in the United States; and have permanent residence status, or are in the process of becoming citizens of the United States, or have at least one parent that is a citizen (and in good standing) of the United States, shall be granted automatic citizenship.”
Why is this even an issue? The law is the law. If people are entering the USA illegally, it’s against the law and they need to be sent back, period! Do as millions have done before, and they would be welcomed. This is nothing but another liberal stunt to swell the democratic votes. The crazy and sick liberals have no respect for anything but their own dumb and selfish agenda. I hope they fail spectacularly tomorrow in the mid-term election. I for one was not going to vote early because I want my vote to count on election day. I hope there are a million people that think like me, just to watch CNN squirm.
Before the war in Lebanon the US Embassy was adjacent to the American University of Beirut campus where I worked. Embassy employees told me many times where women in labor would be lifted up over the fence and let down on US soil (Embassy grounds) just hoping they would give birth there so that their child would have American citizenship. Not what our forefathers had in mind.
I see an overwhelming number of people opposing birthright citizenship, primarily based on births to illegal aliens. I personally disagree. There should be NO illegal aliens on our soil, so that is not a valid argument unless you intend to eliminate control of our borders. Who else will be denied citizenship? If you eliminate birthright, we are back to where we were in the 1800s. I can only produce citizenship papers for one grandparent so how do I qualify? (I can trace my ancestry back to both the Civil and Revolutionary Wars.) This could open a MASSIVE can of worms. Anyone who has not actually gone thru the citizenship process could be challenged and sent back to the country of their ancestors, if that can even be determined.
Forget the Executive Order crap, it won’t fly. T can’t amend the Constitution that way, he’ll just come off as a fool, again. He’s his own biggest enemy.
Citizen ship is erned, not given.
No child should be automatically a citizen just because a girl ran across the border and then gave birth. NO person who is not a legal citizen of the United States should EVER receive ANY U.S. government benefits, no matter their health, condition or number of babies. Medicaid, Welfare, food stamp cards, etc. are abused enough already by LEGAL citizens. We (the life-long tax payers) simply cannot afford it.
This one was easy. Its what the Constitution says. Some say it’s the “Rule of laws”. The problem is some folks treat the constitution as an attractive mistress!
You should not be granted citizenship, simply because your mother was able to get into the USA prior to your being born. You need to have one US citizen as a parent, to be eligible for US citizenship at birth. There are legal ways for adults to become US Citizens, there are ways to become permanent resident aliens (green cards), and there are ways to obtain Asylum or reques Refugee status and begin the path to citizenship that way. These methods are all in place already, and will continue to be ways for people to become US Citizens or legal residents of the US which is a close second. People should not however be able to have citizenship confered simply because they were born in the US, because that circumvents our LAWS and the US Constitution. It has been “de-facto” law that they are granted citizenship for being born here, but not actual law to my recollection. Once we return to the rule of law, and prohibit babies born in the US having citizenship conferred automatically – the border should slow down considerably. We do however still need a wall across our South AND our North borders. The North border can be done second, but it also needs to have a fence because as soon as we finish the Southern fence they would begin coming in through the Northern one in high volumes and we don’t have the manpower up there to handle it. We have far too much illegal drugs coming in, and far too many illeal aliens coming across the border every day. The fence will greatly reduce this volume, and make it easier to track those who do come across illegally. The border by the Rio Grande needs the fence built immediately, because they can cross into US waters drop off their cargo and be back in Mexican waters in under 5 minutes. With the proper fence, cameras, etc. they would no longer be able to bring their cargo into the US so dang easily. It is wrong that we continue to allow this illegal entry into our nation, when virtually every other nation, INCLUDING Mexico has a strong border with their other neighbors. Mexico doesn’t have a good border fence/wall with us, because they LIKE the fact that we allow so many illegals, so much illegal drugs, and so forth into our country through the border. It’s good for their economy, good for their food stamps or whatever they have down there – thousands and thousands of Mexicans come across the border for various reasons and earn their money here in the US and then take it back to Mexico and support their families or whatever else. If it didn’t benefit Mexico, I guarantee you that they would have already built a wall/fence on their Northern border just like they already did on their Southern border. For anyone who thinks it is “legal” for non citizens to enter the US, look up “8 U.S. Code § 1325 – Improper entry by alien”. It clearly lays out the fine and prison time for the first and for subsequent offences of 8 US Code 1325.
Seems like we’re closing the barn door after the horse escaped. There are hundreds of thousands of foreigners with “American Birthright Citizen” children in the world who will take advantage of this in the near future. Add “Chain Immigration” to that, and the United States of America will be unrecognizable in 50 years or so. We are our own worst enemy.
Children born to American parents and raised in America can be expected to enculturated as American citizens and to be economically productive and reasonably civic-minded for their entire lives. Anchor babies and chain migration result in claims by some non productive persons to collect unearned welfare benefits and result in some criminals and ideological fanatics who hate America doing us harm.
Immigration should be like a job application: only persons who are young and educated enough to be law-abiding, tax-paying, civic-minded, net economic contributors should be accepted for the job of American citizen.
The former Democrat base of working people are now largely voting Republican as the Progressives and Socialists try to take power. This bunch wants millions more voters to accept their agenda. Open borders will provide them with the base they need. People from third world countries know nothing about our political system or our values. They just want to survive any way they can. This is the greatest threat to our Democracy. All great Empires were taken down from within. We need to be very cautious about who becomes a citizen. The majority of food stamps, HUD housing, cash assistance and free medical are given to the children of illegals. They also get free education and can collect Disability Social Security without ever paying into the system. Overseeing all these benefits requires a huge expensive Bureaucracy. We cannot afford to subsidize these hoards of people, nor can we house more criminal aliens.
about time the Supremes took a crack at birthright citizenship…….and the is what POTUS is starting by the exec. order!
Automatic birthright citizenship was never part of the constitution
f I went to Greece, regardless of the reason: relocation or vacation and while there delivered a child – that newborn WOULD NOT BE A GREEK CITIZEN!!
Persons who establish their domicile in the USA, that is their intention to stay and have a residence in the USA, are subject to our jurisdiction. Their children born here should therefore be citizens, notwithstanding that the 14th Amendment was not written for their well being. Children born to parents who are here temporarily, woth no intention to reside here, do not have that same right. They are citizens of their parents’ country of origin.
I think there needs to be more choices. However, just because someone is born in our country should not give that same privilege to the illegal parents
I SURELY HOPE THAT THE POLLS ARE PUSHED TO THE LIMITS BY EVERY CITIZEN WHO IS “QUALIFIED” TO VOTE AND SELECTS EVERY GOP CANDIDATE OR INDEPENDENT WHO HAS SUPPORTED OUR PRESIDENT! THE RADICAL, LIBERAL, SOCIALIST PUKES NEED TO GO! ONLY THOSE AND IDIOTS ARE BEING LED BY THE NOSE AND GEORGE SOROS, ET. AL., IS PROBABLY LAUGHING THEIR ARSES OFF. I TRULY BELIEVE THAT THE CARAVAN OF NON-AMERICANS HAVE BEEN HOODWINKED INTO BELIEVING THE STREETS ARE PAVED IN GOLD AND HAVE NO IDEA OF WHAT AWAITS THEM, AND THAT’S SAD…
I PRAY FOR MY COUNTRY AND PRESIDENT EVERY DAY AND AS A 26 YEAR ARMY VET, WE NEED OUR COUNTRY TO CONTINUE TO GO IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION AS IT HAS BEEN SINCE 2016.
I’m not sure if it was Jacob Howard, but I did read somewhere that the mother had to be a citizen.
Birthright citizenship should mean that only children of legitimate U.S. Citizens should be U.S. citizens, whether they are born inside the geographic boundaries of the country or outside. My former wife was born in Munich of U.S. citizens, her father was serving overseas in the U.S. Army. She’s clearly a U.S. citizen no matter where she was born. But illegal aliens who sneak into the United States should NOT be able to pop out an “anchor baby” and then drag the whole family into America to claim social welfare. Those benefits are paid for by legal, tax-paying citizens. We cannot pay for everyone in the world to have U.S. citizenship and welfare. The Democrat-Socialists want to hand out citizenship to everyone, so the new “pseudo-citizens” will vote for Democrats who will keep giving them welfare paid out of our treasury. This must stop!
I believe BOTH parents of a child should be US citizens and should be MARRIED to one another before a child can be declared a US citizen. Any other way makes the situation too easy to get people into this country that are NOT US citizens….we need to get a serious hold on this!!!
Why do we keep shooting ourselves in the foot. Most other countries do not allow birth right citizenship, it is an insane idea.
If the parents are here illegally, and are therefore not citizens of our Country, our Constitution does not apply to them. Period.
OK. Here’s what the first sentence of the 14th amendment says verbatim “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States, and of the State wherein they reside.” There is nothing in that statement at all about the parents. It is quite straightforward. Unless you want to try to stretch the meaning of “being subject to the jurisdiction thereof” so that it suits your preference you must concede that it clearly provides for anyone born here regardless of anything else. However, I couldn’t find anything in the articles of the Constitution defining citizenship. The only references to citizenship prior to the amendments to the Constitution were in the articles specifying that a person must be a citizen to be in congress and must be natural born citizen to be president. If anyone knows any clause in the articles of the Constitution prior to the amendments that defines citizenship please let me know. That being said, I don’t like it at all that people abuse that provision of our Constitution by coming into our country illegally, have babies so that the children will be citizens and then use the children to appeal to the humanitarian and benevolent nature of the people of the United States in order to continue to stay illegally. We don’t need a presidential executive order contrary to the Constitution to remedy this problem. People here illegally should be made to leave and if they had children while here illegally they should take the children with them whether the children are citizens or not. That’s all.
Hard to believe this one is not a 100% vote for at least one parent being a true American citizen. oh well
God Bless America
Trap
After working with the USBP for many years I see that this is not the only thing that needs repealing, FOR SURE!
I have heard of US citizens going to other countries and bringing back children to adopt and make us citizens. Then turn child over to others to raise. Childs parents cross into us later on.
Then US citizens go back for another child or two and repeat. Is this legal or moral?
Only to those children who are born to both parents who are citizens of the United States. Otherwise we end up with the parents and relatives of the non citizen parent living and voting Illegally as noncitizens of the United States.
WE HAVE less than 3 days to go. We have GOT TO STICK WITH OUR PRESIDENT GET OUT AND VOTE FOR EVERY REPUBLICAN. WE CAN’T LET THE DEMTURD COMMUNIST. GET IN TO POWER. THEY WILL DESTROY OUR COUNTRY. SPREAD THE WORD VOTE REPUBLICAN. GOD BE WITH US. Keep spreading the word……. VOTE RED………
It is so very obvious that the demon rats have gone over to the dark side.
They care only for power and the ability to fundamentally
change America into a socialist state. Therefore, they will say and do anything to achieve
that goal, including allowing non-native species of peoples to flood our borders.
They have no moral compass with which to guide them.
Oh Lord, please help us!!!
I agree with Harvey Rich. The way the first option is worded it appeared to exclude legal immigrants. I am for allowing citizenship to those born to LEGAL immigrants, but not to ILLEGAL immigrants.
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