100 percent agreement, which of course I’m sure a number of people won’t agree with. However, that doesn’t mean that reality is wrong. Just that some folks don’t want to acknowledge the hard truth.
On April 30th, the President has to announce that he will allow those states Governors with little to no Wuhan Virus cases to re-open their economies May 1st. Otherwise, we will add another 6 million people to the unemployment rolls every single week and many small to mid-size businesses will simply cease to exist. Do the simple math folks. We had 156 million people employed in January of this year. Subtract a rate of 6 million a week and see how long it will be until we hit depression level numbers. Continuing much beyond April 30th will lead to a self-induced economic depression that would take years to recover from. NOT A VIABLE PATH NO MATTER WHAT DRS. FAUCI AND BIRX SAY. Dr. Fauci would have us stayed shutdown until a vaccine was available, which at best would take 12 to 18 months. Remember, we still don’t have a vaccine for the virus that made him famous: that being HIV. There are treatments, but no vaccine to eradicate that virus. So there is no guarantee a 100 percent effective vaccine, which is what Dr. Fauci is using as his standard, will ever be available. In the meantime, the country would implode economically, as month after month passes, with ultimately well over 100 million Americans unemployed.
The government can’t simply keep borrowing money to send out checks indefinitely. At some point, in the not too distant future at the rate these multi-trillion packages are being assembled, those nations buying our treasuries will look at us as the same kind of credit risk as Venezuela, Argentina and other collapsed economies and act accordingly. Meaning demand far higher interest rates to lend us money, if they deem to even want to lend us any more money. It’s called doing a risk / benefit analysis of the options and costs of paths on the table.
The rest of the country’s Governors, minus the 6 to 8 hot zones already identified, can begin re-opening over the following two weeks based again on the hospitalizations declining in those states. Places like NYC, NJ and other hot zones will take longer to get back. Better to have 90 to 95 percent of the country back up and running than idling the whole country until we meet Dr. Fauci’s unrealistic goal of not one new Wuhan Virus infection or one more death. Also both Drs. Fauci and Birx ARE NOT ruling out that this virus isn’t seasonal. Meaning it may very well return in the fall like all other flu viruses. Are we expected to then shutdown the country in October again?
Finally, the so-called model that everyone seems to be relying on appears to be deeply flawed or poorly designed. Any model that starts out predicting 2,200,000 total U.S. deaths 4 to 5 weeks ago and steadily declines almost daily down to now 50,000 total U.S. deaths (likely to go even lower by the time this is done), can’t be well designed. No single variable, that being simple self-distancing which Dr. Birx keeps attributing to almost rate relate of decline, should not be sufficient to result in a decline of this magnitude. The incubation period of the virus in 7 to 21 days, so the stats the model generates shouldn’t change almost daily. Amazing that after numerous requests from several sources, the creators of this model or either Drs. Fauci or Birx, refuse to share the detailed metrics used by this model that was the major reason the government decided to shutdown the economy in the first place.
PaulE
4 years ago
I agree with you, but AMAC decided to censor my response. Nice huh? So much for free speech.
Robert Niemotka
4 years ago
This is great,lets get it done!
Stan Beckham
4 years ago
My gut says “Strongly Favor”. My vote is “Favor”. Ultimately, we as a nation shouldn’t use this pandemic as an excuse to go fully isolationist. We still live in the world we have helped create. This gut-check may help people that believe in nations stop those that believe in globalism.
Janet Lapsley
4 years ago
Of course, USA would have to pay more for our drugs because our workers aren’t slaves.
EAA
4 years ago
Governments of Communist countries generally do not care much about their own. Why would they care about us?
We have seen that exports of various Chineses goods have been contaminated. IE: pet food, toys, etc.
Common sense dictates our elected policy makers put our safety first.
It should be illegal for any politician to accept money from a foreign lobbyist.
Dick Waldeck
4 years ago
How will this legislation affect the cost of medications? We need to strongly consider this and establish other inexpensive avenues for the components and medications.
Martin
4 years ago
Dump the Chicoms.
Jim
4 years ago
I also hope this action would add more jobs back into our economy and affordable drug price controls for all Americans.
Les Jones
4 years ago
Part of our problem is our own government where competing agencies, FDA and especially EPA have driven manufacturing offshore with their oppressive rules and inspections. Many ingredients simply cannot be made here at any price. Without key reforms at home bringing home manufacturing isn’t going to happen.
BobA
4 years ago
I would hope that this isn’t limited to drugs. We need to get back to “Made in America”.
Billy
4 years ago
China has put us in the vine that were in today by spreading their nasty ass pollution their disease they have the worst record for pollution in the world! Them and India have the worst pollution records out of all the continents and countries in the world I think that we need to hold them accountable for what they’ve done! And this is just proof that we need our Industries back in America 20 tax breaks that incentivize companies to move their companies back here to America! We need to be a self-sustaining country instead of depending on countries like India and China for our most precious Commodities which is her medicine! Because that is what house our most precious commodity actually is people that’s what the medicines are for is to help our people! A country needs to be self-sustaining in every way!
John R Powers
4 years ago
We should be making our products here in America NOT in any other country .
Brenda Marsh
4 years ago
We need nothing from China!
Richard Chaby
4 years ago
Nancy Pelosi doesn’t care about adding additional 250 billion to help small business owners. She only wants to weaken our economy to hurt President Trump’s chances of re-election in 2020
Lamp, Edward
4 years ago
I wouldn’t trust anything produced in or coming out of a lying Country.
Gibby
4 years ago
We need to get back into making THINGS instead of just deals.
Sheran Cannon
4 years ago
Before this pandemic I was very uncomfortable with the large amount of medication ingredient made in China, this pandemic amplifies my fear of the poor quality and unsafe environment of China’s manufacturing facilities. We all need to get back to the
MADE IN AMERICA mind set.
Marie M
4 years ago
The CCP needs to be held accountable for the economic damage to the U.S., we need to get our companies out of China we cannot be dependent on them manufacturing what we need especially for drugs. Tucker Carlson asked this question last night “how come the virus didn’t spread throughout China and remained in the Wuhan area” . Something to think about!
John
4 years ago
This is what a global enconomy does to our country, and its GREED that got us here. We should be self sufficient we can make almost anything we need . I believe that this corona virus is a payback from China because our president forced them into a fair trade deal, they have been screwing the U.S out of Billions for years.
Bill
4 years ago
When does the USA wake up? We have made great strides in reducing our dependence on foreign oil, but not in other areas. Expand the scope to include all exports from China, period. If not we will see the Chinese take over America without the need to use warfare of any fashion.
gerold t davey
4 years ago
Just saw an article about how pork is shipped to China, packaged and returned to USA markets with tag stating “grown in America” and is very small print packaged in China.. China owns our packing industry.
Tom M
4 years ago
This is a double edged sword in that the costs of goods would likely rise since labor costs would be higher in other parts of the world, especially in the US. Then again, I would never trust the socialist run FDA to determine what is healthy or not for me. They are highly influenced by Big Phamra and Pharma believes that the only reason people are sick and ill is because they don’t have enough pharmaceutical drugs in them.
Chuck Anthony
4 years ago
Federally mandated production regulations do not address the issue-drugs are being made overseas because of lower production costs. If the Federal government would relax our rules and reduce the redtape domestic production would naturally increase, competition would foster lower costs and American jobs and lives would be saved.
Lorraine Ferland
4 years ago
I have long been against doing business with China. I am no longer buying anything labeled China. I will go without first. We should never trust a country that murders and tortures their own people. They care about nothing except money and power. We have just learned a great lesson and lost many Americans along with a great economy due to this corona virus and the lies of China. America better get with the program or we will be no more!!!!
Mari-Tere De Lara
4 years ago
Let’s get out of China all completely and start manufacturing in the Good old USA
Stan d. Upnow
4 years ago
EVERY American who has purchased Anything in the last 30 years can attest to the often inferior quality of Chinese goods. I can personally back that statement up.
They will cheat you to save a penny, without the slightest care as to the consequences on the other end. Remember all of our dogs that died a few years ago as a result of pet treats that were tainted with toxic substances? That’s just one example; there are many more.
Mike
4 years ago
Too little, too late I fear.
Linda Maria
4 years ago
It is disturbing that so many of our products are imports from China! We need our products to all be proudly “Made In America!”
Karen
4 years ago
Do you send the results of these polls to Congress and the president.
Shawn
4 years ago
It’s quite simple. We need to bring back American jobs.
Rob J
4 years ago
I doubt this is going to make the proponents of ‘ OPIC ‘ very happy, but it’ll sure save Taxpaying USA plenty in OPIC Bailouts, which we are on the hook for, despite of OPIC’s denials …. notice I said OPIC, not OPEC.
Carl Thomas
4 years ago
We need to our manufacturing base back to the USA, for as many products as possible.
Caleb
4 years ago
President Trump fulfilling yet another promise. “Bring jobs back home” in MAGA.
Mealy Paul
4 years ago
I would hope that this isn’t a new line of BS coming out of Washington, AGAIN! None of the 3 sponsors has done anything of significance for We the People for a decade or more!
Steven Revill
4 years ago
Everything we get from China is no good. Their steel is terrible and anything made from it. They have sold us poisoned toys for our children. The Obama administration let them start processing foods there that is raised here. I really believe that this virus was also brought in through some food supplies. We must get America back to manufacturing here. Anywhere you go to shop is full of Chinese products. If they stopped making shoes we would all be barefoot. It is pure idiocracy for the US to not be fully self sufficient.
John
4 years ago
We need trade with all nations but certain critical care items should never be relied on from a country other than ours. It’s called common sense. If TV or iPhones stop shipping from Asia due to war or trade issues we will survive but pharmacy items cutoff would not be good.
TomB
4 years ago
We’re in the midst of a crisis and the “made-in-China” problem is staring us in the face … Now is the time for action. Please know that previous warnings of this very situation included much more than pharmaceuticals. To this day many of our vehicles, machinery, telecommunications and critical equipment parts are still made in China. This should be a wake-up notice for corrective measures by our government. The “cheap labor” and “bottom line” excuses should no longer be a driving force … take action now.
Gordon Bibbins
4 years ago
Medicines are the first, most other essential commodities should follow. Communist China is not our friend.
Dr William L Svoboda
4 years ago
Nothing should be imported that we can make ourselves, Keep America Great and Independent.
Thomas A Klein
4 years ago
I voted “oppose” for two reasons:
One is – we don’t have enough information about the bill. We’d be absolute fools to think that the extent of this bill would be exactly as (here) printed, stand alone and one page long; and,
Two is – even as described here it moves US further into a socialist (i.e. government controlled) economy.
That said, I really would like to see market pressures (capitalism) move us out of China (not because I dislike the people there, but because their (Communist) leaders lied to the rest of the world.
Diana Talmadge
4 years ago
China wants to kill us off. We need to distance ourselves from the barbarians.
Rev William Garrison
4 years ago
I agree, we lost the “made in America” years ago. Also when will the VA really help vet as filing claims rather then consistently denying them.
J Yachim
4 years ago
To the poll authors … your descriptors of each voting option are utterly ridiculous – voters could feel strongly about both the top and bottom end of your polls based on you descriptions. How about you just use and a scale of 1-5 how strongly do you feel about “x”?
Robert Wynne
4 years ago
I’ve never been in favor of America giving up it’s manufactoring base one bit.
Dorothy
4 years ago
Not only should we negotiate drugs and medical devices but we need to rethink other things such as technology, steel, space knowledge and don’t give them a free ride to attend our universities.
BBT
4 years ago
It would take years to reverse these trade agreements with China and there is no time like to present to begin. I do hate to see even my garments say “made in ….” some other place but here. Clothing certainly isn’t any less expensive due to export/import costs, so drugs aren’t either. I don’t trust any foreign communist government, and former presidents did us no favors. Bring it all home. President Trump can handle the cost issues with his negotiation skills.
MLHD
4 years ago
We need to develop our own capacity to develop and have the jobs here as much as we can for our needs as well as the needs of others. This pandemic proves that we need each other and other countries. There is no problem with sharing resources. However, it is not prudent to be so dependent that you can’t take care of self. Our stance should just that. It’s not that we don’t want to do any business with other countries, but IT IS that we need to make sure our resources, our citizens, can take care of our resources, our citizens. Simply stated, put your mask on first, then help the person next to you put their mask on.
Hans
4 years ago
Did you know that all vitamin C also is produced in China as well as many other supplements
Lynn Burrell
4 years ago
I don’t like the US dependent on anyone. At least half of anything we consume should be made right here.
No defense should be made out of the USA
100 percent agreement, which of course I’m sure a number of people won’t agree with. However, that doesn’t mean that reality is wrong. Just that some folks don’t want to acknowledge the hard truth.
On April 30th, the President has to announce that he will allow those states Governors with little to no Wuhan Virus cases to re-open their economies May 1st. Otherwise, we will add another 6 million people to the unemployment rolls every single week and many small to mid-size businesses will simply cease to exist. Do the simple math folks. We had 156 million people employed in January of this year. Subtract a rate of 6 million a week and see how long it will be until we hit depression level numbers. Continuing much beyond April 30th will lead to a self-induced economic depression that would take years to recover from. NOT A VIABLE PATH NO MATTER WHAT DRS. FAUCI AND BIRX SAY. Dr. Fauci would have us stayed shutdown until a vaccine was available, which at best would take 12 to 18 months. Remember, we still don’t have a vaccine for the virus that made him famous: that being HIV. There are treatments, but no vaccine to eradicate that virus. So there is no guarantee a 100 percent effective vaccine, which is what Dr. Fauci is using as his standard, will ever be available. In the meantime, the country would implode economically, as month after month passes, with ultimately well over 100 million Americans unemployed.
The government can’t simply keep borrowing money to send out checks indefinitely. At some point, in the not too distant future at the rate these multi-trillion packages are being assembled, those nations buying our treasuries will look at us as the same kind of credit risk as Venezuela, Argentina and other collapsed economies and act accordingly. Meaning demand far higher interest rates to lend us money, if they deem to even want to lend us any more money. It’s called doing a risk / benefit analysis of the options and costs of paths on the table.
The rest of the country’s Governors, minus the 6 to 8 hot zones already identified, can begin re-opening over the following two weeks based again on the hospitalizations declining in those states. Places like NYC, NJ and other hot zones will take longer to get back. Better to have 90 to 95 percent of the country back up and running than idling the whole country until we meet Dr. Fauci’s unrealistic goal of not one new Wuhan Virus infection or one more death. Also both Drs. Fauci and Birx ARE NOT ruling out that this virus isn’t seasonal. Meaning it may very well return in the fall like all other flu viruses. Are we expected to then shutdown the country in October again?
Finally, the so-called model that everyone seems to be relying on appears to be deeply flawed or poorly designed. Any model that starts out predicting 2,200,000 total U.S. deaths 4 to 5 weeks ago and steadily declines almost daily down to now 50,000 total U.S. deaths (likely to go even lower by the time this is done), can’t be well designed. No single variable, that being simple self-distancing which Dr. Birx keeps attributing to almost rate relate of decline, should not be sufficient to result in a decline of this magnitude. The incubation period of the virus in 7 to 21 days, so the stats the model generates shouldn’t change almost daily. Amazing that after numerous requests from several sources, the creators of this model or either Drs. Fauci or Birx, refuse to share the detailed metrics used by this model that was the major reason the government decided to shutdown the economy in the first place.
I agree with you, but AMAC decided to censor my response. Nice huh? So much for free speech.
This is great,lets get it done!
My gut says “Strongly Favor”. My vote is “Favor”. Ultimately, we as a nation shouldn’t use this pandemic as an excuse to go fully isolationist. We still live in the world we have helped create. This gut-check may help people that believe in nations stop those that believe in globalism.
Of course, USA would have to pay more for our drugs because our workers aren’t slaves.
Governments of Communist countries generally do not care much about their own. Why would they care about us?
We have seen that exports of various Chineses goods have been contaminated. IE: pet food, toys, etc.
Common sense dictates our elected policy makers put our safety first.
It should be illegal for any politician to accept money from a foreign lobbyist.
How will this legislation affect the cost of medications? We need to strongly consider this and establish other inexpensive avenues for the components and medications.
Dump the Chicoms.
I also hope this action would add more jobs back into our economy and affordable drug price controls for all Americans.
Part of our problem is our own government where competing agencies, FDA and especially EPA have driven manufacturing offshore with their oppressive rules and inspections. Many ingredients simply cannot be made here at any price. Without key reforms at home bringing home manufacturing isn’t going to happen.
I would hope that this isn’t limited to drugs. We need to get back to “Made in America”.
China has put us in the vine that were in today by spreading their nasty ass pollution their disease they have the worst record for pollution in the world! Them and India have the worst pollution records out of all the continents and countries in the world I think that we need to hold them accountable for what they’ve done! And this is just proof that we need our Industries back in America 20 tax breaks that incentivize companies to move their companies back here to America! We need to be a self-sustaining country instead of depending on countries like India and China for our most precious Commodities which is her medicine! Because that is what house our most precious commodity actually is people that’s what the medicines are for is to help our people! A country needs to be self-sustaining in every way!
We should be making our products here in America NOT in any other country .
We need nothing from China!
Nancy Pelosi doesn’t care about adding additional 250 billion to help small business owners. She only wants to weaken our economy to hurt President Trump’s chances of re-election in 2020
I wouldn’t trust anything produced in or coming out of a lying Country.
We need to get back into making THINGS instead of just deals.
Before this pandemic I was very uncomfortable with the large amount of medication ingredient made in China, this pandemic amplifies my fear of the poor quality and unsafe environment of China’s manufacturing facilities. We all need to get back to the
MADE IN AMERICA mind set.
The CCP needs to be held accountable for the economic damage to the U.S., we need to get our companies out of China we cannot be dependent on them manufacturing what we need especially for drugs. Tucker Carlson asked this question last night “how come the virus didn’t spread throughout China and remained in the Wuhan area” . Something to think about!
This is what a global enconomy does to our country, and its GREED that got us here. We should be self sufficient we can make almost anything we need . I believe that this corona virus is a payback from China because our president forced them into a fair trade deal, they have been screwing the U.S out of Billions for years.
When does the USA wake up? We have made great strides in reducing our dependence on foreign oil, but not in other areas. Expand the scope to include all exports from China, period. If not we will see the Chinese take over America without the need to use warfare of any fashion.
Just saw an article about how pork is shipped to China, packaged and returned to USA markets with tag stating “grown in America” and is very small print packaged in China.. China owns our packing industry.
This is a double edged sword in that the costs of goods would likely rise since labor costs would be higher in other parts of the world, especially in the US. Then again, I would never trust the socialist run FDA to determine what is healthy or not for me. They are highly influenced by Big Phamra and Pharma believes that the only reason people are sick and ill is because they don’t have enough pharmaceutical drugs in them.
Federally mandated production regulations do not address the issue-drugs are being made overseas because of lower production costs. If the Federal government would relax our rules and reduce the redtape domestic production would naturally increase, competition would foster lower costs and American jobs and lives would be saved.
I have long been against doing business with China. I am no longer buying anything labeled China. I will go without first. We should never trust a country that murders and tortures their own people. They care about nothing except money and power. We have just learned a great lesson and lost many Americans along with a great economy due to this corona virus and the lies of China. America better get with the program or we will be no more!!!!
Let’s get out of China all completely and start manufacturing in the Good old USA
EVERY American who has purchased Anything in the last 30 years can attest to the often inferior quality of Chinese goods. I can personally back that statement up.
They will cheat you to save a penny, without the slightest care as to the consequences on the other end. Remember all of our dogs that died a few years ago as a result of pet treats that were tainted with toxic substances? That’s just one example; there are many more.
Too little, too late I fear.
It is disturbing that so many of our products are imports from China! We need our products to all be proudly “Made In America!”
Do you send the results of these polls to Congress and the president.
It’s quite simple. We need to bring back American jobs.
I doubt this is going to make the proponents of ‘ OPIC ‘ very happy, but it’ll sure save Taxpaying USA plenty in OPIC Bailouts, which we are on the hook for, despite of OPIC’s denials …. notice I said OPIC, not OPEC.
We need to our manufacturing base back to the USA, for as many products as possible.
President Trump fulfilling yet another promise. “Bring jobs back home” in MAGA.
I would hope that this isn’t a new line of BS coming out of Washington, AGAIN! None of the 3 sponsors has done anything of significance for We the People for a decade or more!
Everything we get from China is no good. Their steel is terrible and anything made from it. They have sold us poisoned toys for our children. The Obama administration let them start processing foods there that is raised here. I really believe that this virus was also brought in through some food supplies. We must get America back to manufacturing here. Anywhere you go to shop is full of Chinese products. If they stopped making shoes we would all be barefoot. It is pure idiocracy for the US to not be fully self sufficient.
We need trade with all nations but certain critical care items should never be relied on from a country other than ours. It’s called common sense. If TV or iPhones stop shipping from Asia due to war or trade issues we will survive but pharmacy items cutoff would not be good.
We’re in the midst of a crisis and the “made-in-China” problem is staring us in the face … Now is the time for action. Please know that previous warnings of this very situation included much more than pharmaceuticals. To this day many of our vehicles, machinery, telecommunications and critical equipment parts are still made in China. This should be a wake-up notice for corrective measures by our government. The “cheap labor” and “bottom line” excuses should no longer be a driving force … take action now.
Medicines are the first, most other essential commodities should follow. Communist China is not our friend.
Nothing should be imported that we can make ourselves, Keep America Great and Independent.
I voted “oppose” for two reasons:
One is – we don’t have enough information about the bill. We’d be absolute fools to think that the extent of this bill would be exactly as (here) printed, stand alone and one page long; and,
Two is – even as described here it moves US further into a socialist (i.e. government controlled) economy.
That said, I really would like to see market pressures (capitalism) move us out of China (not because I dislike the people there, but because their (Communist) leaders lied to the rest of the world.
China wants to kill us off. We need to distance ourselves from the barbarians.
I agree, we lost the “made in America” years ago. Also when will the VA really help vet as filing claims rather then consistently denying them.
To the poll authors … your descriptors of each voting option are utterly ridiculous – voters could feel strongly about both the top and bottom end of your polls based on you descriptions. How about you just use and a scale of 1-5 how strongly do you feel about “x”?
I’ve never been in favor of America giving up it’s manufactoring base one bit.
Not only should we negotiate drugs and medical devices but we need to rethink other things such as technology, steel, space knowledge and don’t give them a free ride to attend our universities.
It would take years to reverse these trade agreements with China and there is no time like to present to begin. I do hate to see even my garments say “made in ….” some other place but here. Clothing certainly isn’t any less expensive due to export/import costs, so drugs aren’t either. I don’t trust any foreign communist government, and former presidents did us no favors. Bring it all home. President Trump can handle the cost issues with his negotiation skills.
We need to develop our own capacity to develop and have the jobs here as much as we can for our needs as well as the needs of others. This pandemic proves that we need each other and other countries. There is no problem with sharing resources. However, it is not prudent to be so dependent that you can’t take care of self. Our stance should just that. It’s not that we don’t want to do any business with other countries, but IT IS that we need to make sure our resources, our citizens, can take care of our resources, our citizens. Simply stated, put your mask on first, then help the person next to you put their mask on.
Did you know that all vitamin C also is produced in China as well as many other supplements
I don’t like the US dependent on anyone. At least half of anything we consume should be made right here.
No defense should be made out of the USA