BULLETPROOF: The Truth About the Assassination Attempts on Donald Trump | Jack Posobiec

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Jack Posobiec: When one side has decided that murder, killing, taking out your political opponents physically is an acceptable option, then that has to be the number one issue of the entire election. DOJ released an unredacted letter saying that there’s a 150, 000 bounty on the head of Donald Trump. So, these are active things.

But still a lot of questions about Thomas Matthew Crooks about how this situation was allowed to happen and whether or not he had assistance in planning this operation. And it was a failed hit operation and people need to understand that.

Matt Kane: Joining me right now is the Senior Editor of Human Events, Veteran Navy Intelligence Officer, and New York Times bestselling author, Jack Posobiec. Jack, thanks for joining me today. Welcome. Hey, thanks so much for having me on again. let’s begin with the new book, Bulletproof, the truth about the assassination attempts on Donald Trump.

First off, congratulations, President Trump just last week endorsed and encouraged everybody to go purchase it. This is the first and only preliminary investigative report on the Butler assassination attempt and just before publishing, you were even able to include the second attempt on his life that took place at President Trump’s West Palm Beach golf course.

So, without giving too much away, of course, what are some things you would want our listeners to know about the book as they begin reading it?

Jack Posobiec: look, thanks again for having me on and what an honor to have President Trump bring me backstage. And I just asked if I could give him a copy of the book and I just, wanted to say thank you for all he’s doing.

And then, of course, obviously, his son. Donald Trump Jr. wrote the forward to the book. And so, we were very honored to have that as well. And they bring me backstage, and they say, okay, here’s the president and you can give a copy of the book. And he, and it was his idea as a matter of fact, to do the video.

And he said, let’s do a little video. And it pointed at Charlie Kirk actually, because it was a turning point event. He said, Charlie, film this. And so, Charlie goes and pulls his camera out and films this great video of us where he’s, encouraging everyone to go check out the book.

And really though, it’s, and I said to him, I said, Mr. President, I, hate to have to write a book like this, but unfortunately those are the times that we live in such times as these. And what’s interesting is I’ve been in the course of promoting the book and, doing a tour now really for this and doing media.

I’ve even come across people, believe it or not, who still out there believe that this shooting didn’t happen. There are still people. I just did this whole interview in California with this guy who was, I don’t know. He’s middle of the road, and he was open to these discussions. But yeah, they were asking questions about, did this really happen?

Did it really occur? Did these say, I said, you go talk to the doctor, you go talk to the hospital report. And more importantly than any of that, go talk to the family of Corey Campatore, who left that rally without their father, without their husband, who went home, who I met when we did the second Butler rally on October 5th.

So, first was on July 13th. The second was October 5th. Go ask them if this thing was real, because I guarantee you, it doesn’t get more real than that. Then the last words they hear from their father saying, get down and a fire chief, because that’s what the caliber of people that you get when you go to a Trump rally and you see the VIPs, these aren’t, this guy, wasn’t some, daddy Warbucks mega donor.

He was a volunteer fire chief. Yeah. for his local department. He’d been there for a long time. There’s a veteran as well. And he was protecting his family. That’s the caliber of people that Trump considers a VIP. And so the main thing that I think for anyone who, at least once you get beyond that hurdle of believing whether or not it took place, which by the way, I can understand is a little bit tricky because even FBI director, Chris Ray, when he gave his testimony to the lied essentially to the house when he said that it was shrapnel from one of President Trump’s teleprompters that hit him in the ear when we can all see the video.

I’m sure people have watched the video hundreds of times individually that the teleprompters are perfectly intact. The teleprompters were never hit once. They would have been shattered if they were hit with a 223 round or 556 from an AR 15. They weren’t shattered. Instead, it was President Trump, and of course, we have images of the bullet itself, just as it’s just seconds away from striking, milliseconds away from striking his ear.

And what we really need, though, and what we do come out in the book of, with, are more answers. But still a lot of questions about Thomas Matthew Crooks, about how this situation was allowed to happen, who this person was, and whether or not he had assistance in planning this operation, and it was a failed hit operation, and people need to understand that, the same way that the West Palm Beach incident was, again, a failed hit operation, and the DOJ Released an unredacted letter saying that there is a 150, 000 bounty on the head of Donald Trump.

So, these are active threats. That’s what people need to understand. So, we conducted our own private investigation. We don’t believe the federal government. We don’t trust the federal government. We decided to hire our own private investigators. They’re licensed in Pennsylvania. They’re going around doing a shoe.

Leather reporting, talking to neighbors, talking to the restaurants that Crooks went to, going to the school that Crooks went to, going to the nursing home where Crooks worked, all of these various instances where we’re even conducting a device analysis that goes beyond what the Heritage Foundation put out and actually connecting Crooks to other devices, some of which actually bear the Signature bear the profile, the signal profile of what we would consider a burner phone that’s only active at certain times goes dormant for days and weeks on end that returns to activity on the day prior the day of and even the days after the shooting in Butler P.

1. On July 13th. And so, for folks reading it, This isn’t necessarily a political book. you could read this if you’re not a Trump supporter, you could give it to someone who’s undecided or the middle of the road or not into politics. But what it is it’s a whodunit because we’re actually trying to figure out what went on.

And yes, we do give the political context of the situation, but only so that people get an understanding of what the stakes are and the possible motivations of people that would want to take out a guy who’s standing against the military industrial complex, who’s standing against the military, Big Pharma who’s standing against the big multinationals, the migrant operations that are going on in the country.

He’s got a lot of enemies out there, politically speaking, and a lot of very powerful, very rich entities would like nothing more than to stop the Trump movement and to stop his candidacy. And in the context of when it took place, people forget that this was just several days after a couple of weeks after.

The debate, the disastrous debate with Joe Biden, remember Kamala Harris was still the candidates before the great switcheroo took place. And this goes to show you that the mainstream media has their greatest ability is to make you forget, is to make you forget certain things happened. It is their story selection bias, we call this.

And in in the church, you’d call it a sin of omission where they’re just omitting certain stories and certain facts that don’t fit with. their narrative of conservatives being the, the fascists and conservatives are violent and comparing conservatives to the greatest mass murderers of history.

When in reality, we know that the only person murdered during this campaign was a Trump supporter by an act blue donor. And Donald Trump himself has survived two attempted murders.

Matt Kane: Yeah. That’s what I want to talk to you a little bit about, because if instead of President Trump was a Democrat candidate who was targeted, it surely would have been covered.

Not only Excuse me, differently, but also for a lot longer period of time. Excuse me. And they would have played it out all the way to election to boost a Democrat candidate, paying him his brave, heroic, and his election as a foregone conclusion. Now, we know how shameless the media is, and they’ve essentially, they’re really just state media at this point, which is why so many alt media programs, such as Human Events Daily, which you host, continue to grow.

But were you even, or should I say, were you at all surprised at how quickly they moved off the It really was a truly historic attempt. he survived it, but it was really a historic attempt on a president. Were you surprised to see that, or was this the status quo in terms of media coverage, in your opinion?

Jack Posobiec: I’ll put it this way. I’d say I was, a little bit surprised, but certainly not shocked, because when you, what you saw, not only in the time they took to move off of it, but also look at their reluctance to cover it in the first instance, and their, their, attempts to Claim that it was not an assassination attempt when anybody watching that video with even a little bit of firearms Experience knows exactly what that was.

Keep it a CNN with the headline president trump falls off stage after loud sounds Pops go off from NBC pops going off at president trump’s rally president trump collapses There’s actually was a I think it was MSNBC president trump Collapses on stage mid speech. And so, you saw this narrative. By the way, we saw this again with the Ryan Wesley Routh shooting or attempted shooting there in Palm Beach, where it was, gunfire erupts at gunfire erupts near where President Trump is golfing.

Okay, gunfire erupts. And then there was this source to CNN that said, oh, we think this was some criminal enterprise that was going on. It was a South Florida thing. It happened near his golf course, but it wasn’t on his golf course. it later came out that the gunfire that erupted near where Donald Trump was golfing was a secret service agent firing at a would-be assassin.

So, the mainstream media has shown their contempt for the president, but also there, I would say fear of this story because they don’t want the narrative getting out that Donald Trump is a victim or potentially a victim of violence, that conservatives would be victims of violence. And yes, to your point, of course, were this Kamala Harris or Barack Obama or Joe Biden, this would be the only story that we are hearing about.

And let’s, just be frank for a second here, that in American politics or any political system, when one side has decided that murder, killing, taking out your political opponents physically is an acceptable option, then that has to be the number one issue of the entire election. You can’t actually have any issues beyond that, because now one side has decided they don’t want to debate.

They want to take you out and they want to get rid of you like an invasive enemy. species. This goes to President Biden’s garbage comments the other night, and we’re, clearly just letting the mask slip there for a second, that is how they view conservatives. This actually was the thesis of my previous book, that this is exactly what they think of all of us and our families.

And so for folks out there who are trying to understand this, When you get bulletproof, it will give you the facts and it will give you the details that the mainstream media will not talk about to make sure, and hopefully the book does well, because what we’re attempting to do is not only do we want to keep this story alive, but we also want to learn the truth about what’s going on, continue our investigation, release new versions of the book, new reports to come out, continue the private investigation so that we’ll be able to release that, whether as a updates to the book, or, possibly just release it on social media.

Some, forms such as this. Actually, I’m a little bit laughing now because I’ve been recording the audiobook. one of the comments I got in from the last book was, hey, Jack, really want you to do that audiobook. And as I’ve been recording it, I’ll be going through and so the way it works is you have to put your manuscript in as soon as possible so they can physically begin printing it.

And we actually began writing on the people are asking how did you guys get this done? Myself and my co-author Joshua Lysak, how did you get this done so fast? We started writing on July 13th. We started writing when President Trump was still in the hospital because we didn’t know what else to do. We didn’t have a book deal at the time.

We didn’t have anything prepared. We just knew how to write. So, we just started putting pen to paper or fingers to keys, as they say these days, and we began writing and. long story short, we had to get the manuscript in pretty much by the beginning of October, end of September, early October.

But then as I’ve been recording the audio book myself, I’ll catch little things where I say, oh, we have an update to that. So, I’m going to put that in, and I’ll just say it as I’m reading the audio book. And there’ll be other instances where I say, oh, actually, we thought there were nine shots, but it turns out there was 10, there might be 11.

So, I’m just adding that as I go along. And so, the audio book. Is version 1. 5 that’s already about to be released because there’s so much information. But what we’re giving you in the physical copy is the best and really the only compendium of all the resources, all the data that we knew early on.

I’ve got text messages from the police officers. I’ve got their group texts. We actually print the actual text messages in the. The group chat bubbles and everything else in the back of it. We’ve got this appendix that’s full of the actual after-action report from the SWAT teams. We’ve got photos that were on the ground that have never been released.

We’ve got eyewitness testimony and eyewitness reports from people that we’ve talked to. Even, some personal just friends of mine who were at the rally like, Saurabh Sharma or the great Brick Suit, of course. And in fact, Brick Suit provided us his, because when you look at the, the angel flag that is depicted on the spine of the book, that’s actually a photo from Brick Suit, which he provided to us.

And, we even have information from Noah Formica, who was the turning point action coordinator for the state of Pennsylvania, and a video which we uncovered in, on TikTok, of all places. I was running these, image searches for Thomas Matthew Crooks, and they uncovered a video of TikTok on Vendor row outside the, outside the rally itself.

So, Crooks never actually goes into the rally, but I found a video of Crooks walking down, past the vendors and as I’m looking behind there, I see that Crooks is actually walking past the turning point action table. Of course, I work with turning point and Charlie Kirk, so familiar with the logo and I call up Noah and I said, no, I did.

And I showed him the photo. Do you remember seeing this individual? He said, yes. We remembered seeing him. We, he came by. I said, what did he say to you? He said, he didn’t say a word. And, turning point action, they’re asking him, are you registered to vote? Are you interested in getting registered?

Would you like an absentee ballot? doing their job, that sort of thing. Grassroots activism. That’s what Charlie Kirk and the guys over there are all about. But they said that Crooks, who the individual that they later learned was Thomas Matthew Crooks was arrogant, had his nose up in the air, just.

wouldn’t really give them any straight answers, and they said he had an air of almost someone who had secret knowledge or a sense of confidence in his actions and what he was doing that they even later said Noah and the other volunteers were saying that. Something seems wrong with that guy.

Something seems off. That was a really weird guy. Obviously, they didn’t know what would happen about 90 minutes later.

Matt Kane: Yeah, so I did come across that video. You probably amplified on social media. It’s real cryptic to see just moments before walking amongst the crowd as if he was any other rally goer aside from obviously what you just shared with us.

I do want to shift to the election very quickly specifically Pennsylvania.

Jack Posobiec: I will say by the way really quick In that video, you do what you don’t see. And this is the other thing I really asked as an investigator. I asked, to Noah, was he talking to anyone? Was he with anyone? Was anyone with him?

And they said, no,

Matt Kane: it’s very strange for someone that when you, you attend these rallies, I’ve seen you at a few of them. that’s a very It’s a group, really a group thing. People show up. It’s almost going to a concert. It’s very, I never,

Jack Posobiec: I couldn’t imagine going by myself. It just, it seems off.

And usually when people go, they’ve got family members, they’ve got friends, they’ve got, they got the writer dies, they got their buddies hanging out with them. So, it’s, not. It is actually unusual to see someone attending by themselves to begin with, which is what I think one of the reasons that they noticed him and really took note of the individual even before they saw the way he was acting.

Matt Kane: Yes. It’s very, suspicious. Now, I do want to switch very quickly to the election now, just less than a week away, hard to believe to a certain extent, specifically in Pennsylvania, and you’ve been doing a ton of work registering voters, trying to boost turnout for President Trump. but despite all that work.

We’re already seeing reports of election interference, potentially fraud in so many counties, York, Lancaster, Bucks County. Now, just yesterday, there was a ruling that allowed early voting to be extended after voters were denied. But what so many people are worried about is that these are just the schemes that have been identified.

What about the ones that haven’t been identified? I’m somewhat concerned about that as well. They certainly exist. There’s no way that we could catch all of them. do you think these schemes are a result of Incompetence or they deliberate, and I also want to get your take on where Governor Josh Shapiro fits into all this

Jack Posobiec: Oh, little Josh Shapiro, my best friend in Pennsylvania.

so, here’s what it comes down to is they’re going to do everything they can to stuff as many dirty ballots as they can into the system. We know they’ve been doing that because it really goes all the way that a lot of this is coming back when you just mentioned in your county, Lancaster County, there’s actually going to be one dropping.

I’ll just say it here. there’s going to be one dropping later today or possibly tomorrow in Erie County where we’ve seen another one of these instances of just. Bad registrations going in and what it is this was a program that was set up by the Biden administration, with Biden bucks to reach out to what they call marginalized communities.

It’s always marginalized communities and essentially, they’re going through, low-income areas and with these clipboards and with these registrations and reaching out to separate organizations is very similar to the acorn scam that we saw all the way back during the days of Barack Obama, that of course, James O’Keefe was famous for.

exposing all those years ago, that what they’ll do is they’ll put in the fraudulent registrations because the way they get paid is they get paid by how many voters they register. So, you’ll have these contractors and subcontractors running around in places like Lancaster, York, Erie, Philadelphia, and I’m just talking about PA, but obviously you can replicate that for the other states, Detroit, Milwaukee, Atlanta, Las Vegas, et cetera, et cetera.

And Charlotte. And, and so you’re looking at a situation now where you have a lot of bad ballots or at least in this case, it was bad registrations. So, we don’t. Believe that any ballots were actually issued for these registrations because they were picked up what and you just mentioned something in Bucks County, right?

So what we did in Bucks County yesterday shows actually that this isn’t 2020 anymore That republicans are on the ball The republican campaign is on the ball and the lawyers have now upped their game and really been let off the leash in a way that they were not in 2020 because the dirty little secret is whatever you want to expose, whatever ruling you want to get done, it has to be done before, before five November.

No judge in America is going to overturn a presidential election. It’s just not going to happen. So, take that white whale and put it up on the shelf because it’s never going to be there. You got to do the work beforehand. And it turns out that’s exactly what we’re doing. And we are up on these people, whether it be Bucks County, Pennsylvania or anywhere in the state.

Like we got Elon Musk on our side now. He’s putting a major focus on Pennsylvania, which has been incredible in terms of resources. And really just hit beyond the obviously financial resources that Elon Musk has his celebrity and his ability to provide and elevate a story very quickly if he posted to his ex and then just allowing the distribution channel of X to go out so quickly is those videos, which, probably shouldn’t say this too much, read too much into this stuff.

You mentioned Josh Shapiro. I’ll just say that those videos are on Josh Shapiro’s desk right now as you and I speak, even though he’s not in the state he’s in or New Hampshire right now where he’s campaigning for Kamala or is he campaigning for himself for 2028? I’m just not sure what he’s doing up there in the granite state the week before an election in a massive swing state like Pennsylvania.

Kind of funny how that works. But those videos are proof positive that you can’t deny what’s going on anymore, whether it be the police officers that were trying to stop people from early voting, which by the way, that’s Republicans and Democrats. This isn’t a partisan thing, just letting people vote on election day.

I’ve instructed all of the people that I have out at getting videos. I said, don’t ask somebody if they’re Republican, Democrat, just ask them if they were able to vote. And I don’t, I’m not even looking at this from a partisan lens. but it was the Democrat government of Bucks County, the friends of Josh Shapiro, right next door to where he came from in Montgomery County, where I also hail from.

And he was totally backstopping this. It was his buddies that took it to court. They tried to say that it was perfectly acceptable for police officers. And if people haven’t seen the videos, you can go to just Twitter and look it up, look at Bucks County, as well as these individuals with fake Badges, Democrats running around dressed as voter protection, but then very small.

It says Pennsylvania Dems at the bottom Acting as if they’re some sort of an official election Worker when they are clearly not this is illegal actioneering You are posing as elected officials and those people should be removed by the state police which is the next thing that I’m working on and the idea that Josh Shapiro Is going to sit there and act like none of it’s happening is completely insane.

So, we took him to court yesterday You I was getting affidavits from everybody who recorded a video, including people who were in the videos, family members who were there with them, which again, by the way, people usually go to stuff with their families. And we took them to court. We won. Resoundingly, they were blown out in court because you are not allowed to stop people from voting when they’re in line at a time that you have posted on the website.

that’s strict Pennsylvania or really any state, election law. And so, the judge ruled that they had violated state election laws. And in extended voting, as a result, extended voting three days in the county of Bucks County, Pennsylvania. But to add insult to injury, Josh Shapiro, the Pennsylvania State Department, which runs the elections in Pennsylvania, and the Bucks County government, which is run by Democrats, not a single one of them have Posted the new extended deadlines to their twitter profiles to their Facebooks to anything else But meanwhile, josh appeal run around of New Hampshire campaign up there Was just on the daily show with John Stewart and he’s hanging out with him having a great interview talking about how great he is But he won’t talk about the fact that he was lost in that He lost in court this week and he’s not providing the information that a judge ordered his Democrats to extend the election there in Bucks County.

So again, you just got a guy who is, he’s just going to keep lying. He’s just going to keep lying. And they will sit there with a, and keep in mind the guy like Josh Shapiro is someone who has no morality whatsoever. So, he can sit there and lie to you with a straight face and act as if what he’s telling you is the God’s honest truth.

When he knows deep down that it is a bold face lie. So, he will tell you, and I guarantee he will tell you those videos are lies. That there were no problems with the election and that he ran the safest and securest election in Pennsylvania, even though there’s already court orders against him. But he will continue to lie, and nothing will be able to make him tell the truth.

Matt Kane: Yeah, you mentioned morality. he really, he’s one of just many in that party that will do really anything to stay in power, get their candidates, their puppets elected. On that note, I do want to end off very quickly on faith. You’re a proud, devout Catholic, as am I. President Trump is a Christian.

You’ve been seeing me. We’ve all been seeing him really leaning more boldly into faith following the attempts on his life. I want to ask you what you make of having a leader and hopefully, God willing, a sitting president who boldly and unapologetically acknowledges the presence of Jesus Christ both in his personal life and also his role throughout the USA.

What do you make of that?

Jack Posobiec: it’s actually amazing to see because in that moment, that’s why we chose the cover that we did for Bulletproof, that, that image of President Trump in a way that you’ve never seen him before, not, raising his fist or leading the great crowds. we’ve all seen that.

We’ve, seen it for a decade at this point, but Donald Trump on his knees with his hands clasped before him, at prayer and humble. And Donald Trump is many things. there’s lots of adjectives that you could use for him, but humble, I don’t think it’s really one that people would usually, would usually pin on the guy.

And I think that biblically speaking, when you read the Bible, that God sometimes chooses the unlikeliest of individuals. and converts them and uses those conversions to perform extraordinary deeds. And typically, you see God do this when he’s raising up a great leader. So whether it be David, whether it be Solomon, whether it be Saul’s conversion to Paul on the road to Damascus, et cetera, there are all of these great conversion stories and they always involved first an act of conversion.

of humility, an act of God humbling them before they are given the greatest strength. And what have we seen since then? The public invocation and embrace of Christianity from President Trump in a way that we’ve never seen in his entire life before. So that’s why we chose the cover that we did for the book.

And, President Trump, of course, his first post back saying those four words, it was God alone that saved him, giving credit to almighty God saved by the grace of God. And then I was at this event with President Trump down in Charlotte, North Carolina, this, Bibles and Ballots event, the 11th hour, 11th hour faith leader event, where he said that in that moment, and you go back and watch the video, that when President Trump goes down, it’s before the Secret Service even gets there.

So, he he goes down, didn’t collapse by the way, like CNN said, but he does go down. And he revealed for the first time ever at that event in Charlotte, that he felt as if a supernatural force. Was pushing him down and he felt that it was god who was pushing him down to save him in that moment And I think that for Christians for believers out there knowing that we have a president Or a candidate that has been ordained in many ways We can’t understand it We can’t explain it But no one will ever be able to tell me that we did not see a miracle That day worked before our eyes and it’s up to us to acknowledge it.

And to not question God’s will, but to follow it. And that’s one of the main reasons that I’m supporting him. It’s certainly one of the main reasons that we put this book out and just so many late nights working hard on it because we do believe that No matter how this ends, we are actually in a spiritual war.

And I spoke at, the Trump rally in Nevada recently. And, I said a couple of things like I just did. And then we ended with just, I just started reading Ephesians because I, don’t really know what else to say. And the fact that we can do certain things like that is we know what our crowd is.

We know what our people are. We know what this movement is. We know that we are the spiritual side. Who do they stand for? you don’t hear them talking about God. You don’t hear them talking about Christianity. You don’t hear them talking about tradition, just even basic traditional morals, right? even without Christ, you would at least hope that they would have some kind of morality.

But no, it’s all abortion rights and Donald Trump is a mass murderer. That’s just, that’s all they say over and over. So, I’ll tell you what, I’m perfectly happy with making my stand where I have, and I will continue to do

Matt Kane: Yeah, that really was an incredible event down in North Carolina.

I was there as well. And to get that insight from him, really

Jack Posobiec: Oh, that’s right I’m sorry, man. I’ve been at a couple of these lately. They all run together. I totally forgot that I saw you there.

Matt Kane: No, yeah. No, but it’s incredible when, that was a real raw insight. everyone, he spoke about it a little bit, but he really, Peeled back another layer there.

It’s incredible. I think you can see that throughout the movement too. People are real excited right now that he’s leaning into that and it’s obviously having a big impact on everything as we really approach the election. So, Jack, I know you’re very busy. Obviously, times of the essence right now during this real historic homestretch.

Tell our listeners where they can find you, follow you, and purchase your book before we let you go.

Jack Posobiec: Yes, thank you so much again. Look, if you want to, if you want to find me, if you want to get the book, it’s order bulletproof. com. That’s if you don’t like Bezos and Amazon, although he did, pull the endorsement from the Washington post.

So, I don’t know, perhaps he’s trying to turn over a new leaf. Of course, it’s up on Amazon. We’ll have the audio book on audible is just as soon as it is produced. And we’ll let everybody know about that. And if you want to follow my work, you can just go to a media matters. CNN, MSNBC, Joy Reid, they just can’t seem to stop talking about me.

Matt Kane: that’s great. We’re definitely going to encourage our listeners to get their copy and to all of our listeners out there, be sure to like and subscribe so that you don’t miss any of AMAC’s great content. I’m Matt Kane. Until next time. Thanks, Jack.