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Airline pilots must retire at age 65, per federal government rules. Should that be changed to 66 or 67 given increasing longevity and shortages in the industry?

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Mohave50
Mohave50
1 year ago

Maybe not forcing those poisonous BS VAX’s on them might help with the pilots dying in the cockpit problem the airlines seem to be having.

Tracy Richardson
Tracy Richardson
1 year ago

Don’t all airline flights have at least 2 pilots? Answer, yes, even the commuters. It seems that the majority of comments forget that, insinuating that if the pilot were to have a problem the plane would leave the sky. I’m 68 and I have no problem with my job. Mandatory retirement at 65 is foolish. If the pilot can pass a physical then he/she should be allowed to fly.

John Davis
John Davis
1 year ago

I believe in safety first.
Not only for people who fly but also for those of us on the ground.
TRUMP / NUGENT 2024

David
David
1 year ago

If Nancy Pelosi can be the Speaker of the House at 80 yrs old, why can’t a pilot who passes the physical fly? What physical did Nancy pass. For that matter, what mental and physical test has Joe taken to “run?” this great nation?

Ruckweiler
Ruckweiler
1 year ago

As a retired A&P my thought is if they can pass the flight physical and maintain training proficency then raise the age.

Karen Smith
Karen Smith
1 year ago

You know, I kind of like the idea that whoever is piloting the plane I’m flying in is in very good physical condition. I turned 65 last year and I hate to admit it, but I’m not 35 anymore and the chances of people 65 and older having “unknown” health problems crop up…including chances of blood clots/seizures, etc increases with age. The pilots are responsible for all those live in that aircraft and men 65 and up tend not to want to admit that they are not as fit as they once were. If they have a health problem that leads to a crisis situation…do you want to be on that plane??? How about your family members? Safety first.

tzayad
tzayad
1 year ago

I consider it hypocritical that federal law mandates that government emplyees, military personnel, and even pilots of commercial industries that are not even government agencies are mandated to retire at age 65, … YET Members of Congress, the President and those serving as Justices (not only SCOTUS, but all judicial appointees), can serve beyond the age of 65. It violates the 14th amendment. It is all or none. And I am tired of the double talk.

Vern H Goding
Vern H Goding
1 year ago

No matter what the age all pilots commercial or private must pass a FAA Medical. If even 80 and pass physical I’ll fly with them.

Fred
Fred
1 year ago

I worked at Boeing for over 25 years as a flight line mech. flight test mech. and final assy. tech.,and heard that on the 737 Max. had the same problems in the USA ? But the US pilots are better trained and put the plane into emergency manual operation! And wasn’t an age issue! Also I’m commercial pilot ! and 66 , but I think if you can’t drive a car , then you shouldn’t be allowed to fly any plane either! And seen people in their 50s , that didn’t get enough sleep and forgot where they were?

Lynn
Lynn
1 year ago

I have flown since I was 15 and I am now 70. I own and fly my own general aviation airplane. I flew fighters in the Air Force and Air Force Reserve for 20 years. I flew for a major airline for 32 years. I still take and pass an FAA class 1 physical every 6 months because I want to. My physical ability and mental acuity allows me to be a simulator instructor for a major airline now. If I wanted to, I could still fly passengers for hire under Part 125 or Part 135 of the Federal Aviation Regulations (FARs). However, Part 121 of the FARs (airline/cargo) stipulates that no one over 65 can fly in those operations. The age 65 rule for Part 121 was changed years ago from age 60. In my opinion, both age numbers are arbitrary. As is the case for much of life, everyone has different physical and mental capabilities at all ages. The point of the current class 1 physical requirement for Part 121 pilots is to insure the physical and mental conditions of those pilots are good enough to crew those airplanes. Age 65 isn’t a magical door that somehow changes the physical and mental abilities of pilots to safely fly an airplane.

Ric
Ric
1 year ago

I think its a BS idea- Spent years working my way up as a FO only to have the whiney crying captains (after 9/11) who were having to face retirement force the union to move the retirement age which ended up forcing thousands of FO’s back down the ladder to wait captain upgrade. Now.. like setting a watch , these yahoos again start B,M and whining about moving it again. I saw that writing on the wall and after a 35 year flying career said FU and retired. Sure glad I did now that I see the spoiled old brats have not changed much

Vern
Vern
1 year ago

If they didn’t get a shot they had to go.You don’t hear that in the news.Now who started that.

Antonio M. Salazar
Antonio M. Salazar
1 year ago

I spent 20 years as an airline pilot following 21 years as a US Navy jet pilot flying off carriers. I hit mandatory retirement age at 65 (it had just been approved after many years at 60). The age 65 was approved at the same time as RJ (Regional Jet) pilots were required to obtain ATP licenses (which required 1500 hours flying time) before being hired. I retired in 2014 at 65 as a Captain which required a 6 month flight physical until I retired and the following year I underwent bypass surgery; I had 2 buddies that were in the Navy with me that died of heart attacks within a year of retiring form their airline. I think 65 as mandatory retirement age is ok however I question whether the ATP should remain as a requirement for future RJ pilots since no one else in the World did this!!! It takes a lot of years and money to accumulate the 1500 hours and the pay remains horrible for a First Officer in the RJ business and we were required to also have a Bachelor Degree in order to be hired. It’s little wonder that the majority of pilots went through the military since they also required degrees and flying times similar to the airlines which is also why the shortage will get worse before it gets better. Ask the same question of FAA Flight Surgeons and chose the answer that best suits today’s economy!!

Rivas
Rivas
1 year ago

First the president that occupied the White House has nothing to do with working Americans. If you pass a physical and cognitive test you should be able to work until you’re 70.

Randall McCraney
Randall McCraney
1 year ago

The criminal in the Whitehouse has nothing to do with this! It all comes down to physical condition and health. You must pass the physical! Period!

Craig M.
Craig M.
1 year ago

You need a Class I Medical Certificate (fight physical including an EKG) every six months as a Captain, FO needs a Class II once a year. I’m 71 and play Pickleball three days a week, so I could probably still pass a medical. The FAA previously raised the age limit for a Class I Medical from 60-65. There should be plenty of data to make a decision on this. I’m not sure how many pilots want to sit for 8-10 hours at a wack at 70. My longest flight was 11.2 hours from Norton AFB, CA to Ramstein AB, Germany. I don’t think you would get enough pilots to stay to make much of a difference.

Earline Clason
Earline Clason
1 year ago

Yes, but they should the criteria, cognizant testing and frequency of their medical exams.

Lynn Maynard
Lynn Maynard
1 year ago

I’m 68 years old and I know that age matters. But it’s more important that the physical and mental capacity of the individual pilots be taken into consideration. With a mandatory annual testing requirement beging at age 62 I believe many pilots could fly safely up to age 72.

Thomas A Cunningham Jr
Thomas A Cunningham Jr
1 year ago

Does not solve the real problem of Fed. Gov. mismanagement!

DannyT
DannyT
1 year ago

Why was this even an issue to put forth on this forum? And then, to posit the argument re increased longevity, citing the fact we have a president who is 80, is a farce, in that it elicits, as expected, the most votes! The issue is much more complex than mere age. Note that no mention, in any of the responses, addresses cognitive abilities, gross motor skills, or fine motor skills. If the current president had the requisite knowledge to fly a plane, how confident would you be in the rest of his abilities to get you safely to your destination?! I can see the advertisements, now, “Come fly IDIOT AIR, where your planned destination may not be where you end up, but we guarantee excitement, and untold thrills, for your journey! We highly recommend you take advantage of our free alcoholic beverages, and recreational drugs, on each flight. You’re gonna have a blast in the end!”

Michael
Michael
1 year ago

I’m not sure what is going on. But I’ve been able to vote more than once for every poll question. I don’t want to cheat. So I’m commenting to help fix a possible bug.

Craig
Craig
1 year ago

I wish I could retire at 65. I’m still able to work though, so I see no problem with pilots working up to 70.

mary
mary
1 year ago

This rules need to be place for congress and senate. We need to set age limit for congress, senate, and president.

Cindy Hackett
Cindy Hackett
1 year ago

I think they need to recruit all Air Force and navy pilots that retired early and give them big money to fly for commercial airlines. Many are retired in their early 40’s. They would keep us safe in the air

Mark
Mark
1 year ago

I don’t even WANT to fly – given the fact so many airlines forced pilots to get the EXPERIMENTAL BIOLOGIC and they’re dropping dead at never-before seen rates. THAT’S where your ‘pilot shortage’ is coming from – they’ve been killed off or are in a health condition too serious to fly.

EdS
EdS
1 year ago

Ask the average retired Government civil Servant if, after 25 to 35 years of service…they retired as multimillionaires then,—-contrast it to our elected political office holders!

Steve Ridgway
Steve Ridgway
1 year ago

Throw in joe manchin as another America and america’s future hater. How stupid can he be to side with MORE CRIMINAL SPENDING THAT ONLY…I MEAN ONLY further…BASTARDIZES biden’s PATHETIC ECONOMY!! WHEN YOU CAN SCREW..1. YOUR FELLOW AMERICANS..2. SIDE WITH A KNOWN CRIME FAMILY….(biden)…you should be lifted out of your congressional chair by a crane..and dropped off in the streets covered with hippos and human waste….manchin..pick your democratic run crime and filth ridden city…..they are a dime a dozen. Scumbag!

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Keith
Keith
1 year ago

Getting rather tired of getting Gundry MD sales pitches from AMAC! So far, I’ve not been able to get any deals or save money from any of AMAC promotional stuff. Saved a lot with AARP, although I don’t follow them or subscribe anymore. AMAC needs to step up their game!

Steve Ridgway
Steve Ridgway
1 year ago

Biden for pilot of the year! Splendid fellow. Sadly, he is a chunk of s**t. This insane idiot is aiding and abetting illegal aliens in our country…AND HE KNOWS IT AND SCOFFS AT IT. THE TURD IS EVEN MAKING IT EASIER WEEKLY!!.. WHEN THIS SLOTH ALLOWS.PROMOTES…FACILITATES…THE ILLEGAL MURDERER FENTANYL TO SPEW INTO USA…ALONG WITH CHILD R**E.COUNTLESS R**ES.COUNTLESS MURDERS BY FENTANYL…AND OUR JUSTICE DEPARTMENT ABETS HIM…MAN IS A LIFELONG CRIMINAL!!!… AND IS ALLOWED TO CONTINUE HIS MURDERING…leader of the cesspool swamp…loser…

Liam
Liam
1 year ago

Question number one seems a bit superfluous to me. The fact that we have a senile old President at the helm has nothing to do with the competency of airline pilots. Biden was born with a mental deficiency that has nothing to do with his age.

ezed2109
ezed2109
1 year ago

Just like so many other things in our society… not if black or white, man or woman, young or old… the rule should be more on merit. Are they fit for the job? Now… that being said; it is fact that as we grow old the mind may still be okay but, there may be delayed reactions, reduced vision, hearing issues, etc. So maybe some additional testing and certifications to insure their merit is 100%

Steve
Steve
1 year ago

I agree it should be raised to 67. What this survey does not mention is there is still a requirement (at least for USA carriers) that at least one pilot must be under the age of 60. Couple that with the stringent physicals and training pilots go thru a couple times a year, and I don’t think this compromises safety, in fact there is much to be said for a senior Captain in handling emergency situations.
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My partner is a retired pilot for a US international airline and flew international routes most weeks, although with his seniority he preferred a regular route to Tokyo 3 times a month. During one of his routine physicals at 59, he had a slightly elevated heart beat. Most doctors would think that’s just the “white coat” syndrome, being nervous around the doctor checking them. By per regulations he was temporarily not allowed to fly until additional testing was done; even the doctor didn’t think much of it initially but was required to do the additional cardiac tests. Long story short, he retired on disability at 59 and never flew again due to an enlarged heart and installation of an ICD (pacemaker/defibrilator). He’s ok otherwise today, and we still travel a lot, but otherwise he would have worked until 65 as he loved what he did.

He feels confident with all of the testing measures in place, as well as the requirement of one pilot under the age of 60 in the cockpit, that two years would be safe.

Sheree
Sheree
1 year ago

We have to look at Federal regulations in the past and ask the question why was this policy set at 65 .They had there reason .65 is senior citizen age, before it was 55 .Remember,A pilot is flying in the sky and has to have a sound mind. I’m in my 60s and I’ve slowed down a bit. The politicians that are in office today are there for other reasons because they Have an agenda. I would not be working in my 80s or even in my 70s I would be out traveling and enjoying life.

Sue
Sue
1 year ago

Enlighten me! Who or what entity has mandated age of retirement for airline pilot’s? I have a pretty good guess, just asking someone to inform me.

J
J
1 year ago

Absolutely ridiculous … Give me a 70 yr old physical fit pilot ….with no dementia….any day..

Deb Dunsford
Deb Dunsford
1 year ago

As long as they meet the requirements to be a pilot, they should be able to fly. 65 isn’t old anymore.

Henry D
Henry D
1 year ago

As long as pilot are tested in aircraft simulators under critical emergency conditions and PASS, I do not see an arbitrary number being used as a age limit for retirement; however, if this testing follows the routine “mandatory” and NOT followed practice to keep aircraft airworthy by the airlines, then this would not be a welcomed change to us passengers.

Bill
Bill
1 year ago

Max. retirement age was 60 in the `80s. Who raised it to 65? I’m a commercial pilot & had a heart attack at 54. Secondly, there are many pilots with feeder airlines & charter services. Take them.

Ruth M Hagfors
Ruth M Hagfors
1 year ago

If a person aged 65 is of sound mind and body, there should be no mandatory retirement. How many of our representatives and senators are WELL past that age and no one requires them to retire. My father had to retire at age 65 and continued to work on his farm but felt that he was discriminated against because she was still able to work. I personally retired at 67, then about a year later took another job that I held for more than a year. I could still be working at 79, but choose to do fun things and enjoy life. Due to the shortage of pilots, they should be allowed to continue to work past 65. They have experience and knowledge to pass on to younger co-pilots.

Ty
Ty
1 year ago

Every person working in the public sector should be required to pass readiness testing starting at age 55 and be required to begin mandatory retirement at 75 regardless of position in any public service position or job responsibility, taxi cab drivers to the President. Yes, people older than 55 can function very well and easily preform daily activities. However aging is normal and so is the natural degrading of physical and cognizant functionality. One wrong decision, because that’s the way I use to do that, is not acceptable. Technology changes to fast and reading a teleprompter in a cockpit, drivers seat, airport tower, operation room, congress or the White House is unacceptable and can be life threatening to the public they serve. So, yes we should always consider the individuals ability to preform at normal standards based on mandatory physical and cognizant health testing as we age.

James
James
1 year ago

Doesn’t it depend on individual pilot. It’s impossible to generalize 65 years old people. Everyone has a different level of physical abilities and health issues. I would think there would have to be a way of vetting people. Epstein didn’t kill himself. Demand to see his client list before the next election.

Noeli G
Noeli G
1 year ago

I think people should retire when they’re ready to retire.

Pete
Pete
1 year ago

There are some pilots that could keep going after 65, but that increase of mandatory age retirement can’t be across the board. A better option would be to substantially reduce the required hours to become a pilot. The cost of flying and the hours required are so astronomical that many pilots have to give up their dreams. The financial liability of so many years accumulating hours limits the potential number of future pilots who would have many young healthy years to serve. They would start out as co-pilots building experience to then become well qualified, safe pilots with many years ahead of them.

ME McDonald
ME McDonald
1 year ago

I think pilots’ duties are stressful. The older one gets the less they are able to deal with high stress and perform at top levels. I think the pilots themselves would have very valuable input into this decision. Do more persuasive recruiting/training of young interest people to become pilots–even in Colleges and Universities. Exposure/promotion of pilot careers to potential pilots is important and the needs warrant evaluation of recruiting/training.

Gary
Gary
1 year ago

We need to get rid of the fraudulent Fauci/Gates Covid jabs disabling

AMB
AMB
1 year ago

I might have agreed to increase the age for retirement in the past, however, not since the introduction of the mandated experimental jab, which has resulted in too many adverse affects.

wade c mackey
wade c mackey
1 year ago

If the pilot passes a medical exam, then he or she should be allowed to fly. I suspect that pilots are also not eager to crash

Bonnie Guenther
Bonnie Guenther
1 year ago

Test for quickness and alertness should ne a factor.

Jack
Jack
1 year ago

Age related health, vigor and abilities vary by individuals. Annual medical examinations are indispensable for filtering out those who need to retire.

Dave
Dave
1 year ago

Age should not be the sole factor. Passing a physical and mental evaluation should be a requirement for continued licensing. Congress obviously has no age restrictions.

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