Boehner is Wrong on Social Security

Dan Weber, AMAC’s Founder

House Minority leader John Boehner, R-Ohio sounds like a liberal Democrat when he talks about some changes he would make in the Social Security program. In a recent interview in the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review he said that he would favor raising the retirement age to 70 for people who have 20 years before retirement. House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md said the same thing in a speech in June.

Then, sounding like a socialist, Mr. Boehner would not pay anything to people who “have substantial non social security income”. So if you paid into the plan after 45 years you would get nothing- your money would go to someone else. “Why are we paying you at a time when we’re broke” he explained.

What he didn’t explain was the reason we are broke. It’s because of the wasteful spending programs politicians like Boehner have put into law- to buy votes with government handouts.

The answer is not to punish older Americans- the answer is to cut Federal spending across the board.

If Boehner was the Vice-president he might say to me, “OK wiseass, you said across the board- that means everything, even Social Security. How are you gonna do that?”

Well I went to a local Social Security office a little while ago. After waiting 45 minutes I was told I had to make an appointment, or wait about two hours to speak to a representative. After making the appointment I asked the person behind the glass wall why there were so many young people in the waiting room (about half of the 40 people waiting). He explained they were there for disability payments.

Doing a little checking I discovered that almost one third of all Social Security payments do not go to the elderly but to young people claiming some kind of disability. They collect under SSI or Social Security Disability. Is that fair? Wasn’t Social security created for the elderly?

I recalled a 60 minute show that talked about a school in Texas where over a quarter of the kids were receiving SSI payments. It seemed their parents told them to act up in school so they would be declared mentally disabled, thus enabling the parents to collect up to $1,000 a month for each child.

Recently I played golf and found out two of the foursome, who were 20 years younger than I, were receiving SS Disability payments. Well they sure didn’t play like they had any injuries!

Perhaps Mr. Boehner just had a bad day. The only good that came out of this is the fact that political leaders are slowly getting the message that they have got to reduce spending.

One way to do that is to eliminate entire Federal Departments. For example, we started the Department of Energy 25 years ago to lessen our dependence on foreign oil. A complete waste!

We created a Department of Education to raise test scores for our kids. What happened? Nothing, the inner city schools are still not able to provide the kids with a decent education.

Americans, especially older Americans deserve to be treated with the dignity they deserve- they earned it. Representatives Boehner and Hoyer should have the courage to make tough decisions finding ways to cut spending- but they shouldn’t do it on the backs of our older citizens.

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tom miller
6 years ago

you answered your own question….buying votes

Alan B.
10 years ago

I am 45 and disabled and you don’t understand that the Bible says “Let those who WILL not work… not CANNOT work…”
My very life depends on me taking care of myself and I WON’T let you take away SSDI/SSI from me.
Social Security and Medicare belong to seniors AND the disabled!

tom miller
6 years ago
Reply to  Alan B.

only problem with disabled is that they don’t monitor. I had one friend who had to wait 4 years to get approval and that had to go to court. then you have others who have virtually nothing wrong and slide thru the system.

12 years ago

To our dem/lib friends: Barney Frank now says Fannie and Freddie should be dissolved…does not the fact that the ringmaster of home finance disasters saying this mean something to you. I find it not only pathetic but ironic And remember if you will that Nancy P. and Harry R. have guided the Congress and Senate since 2006. So if you want to speak about misdoings lately ,I say there are at least a few others besides GWB and the Repubs to examine. At least the Repubs have a working knowledge of how things work and how to get things moving….70 days and counting.

Clay S
12 years ago

I hope I don’t get too carried away here, but, here goes! I am almost 53, and I am drawing S.S. Disability and I HATE it. I worked at last employer for 20+ yrs. I messed up the nerves in my back (on the job, helping fellow employee), had back surgery, then went back to work. My employer put me on the worst jobs possible, and which made my back worse yet. They TOLD me to file for disability, but, I had no intention to do so. I could not just quit, and they knew it. Thankfully, I was able to continue working with help of a few fellow employees. Then, they announced the plant was closing down and moving production to Canada.
With the pain I was experiencing, I knew no one else would hire me. Thankfully, I finally found a doctor that understood, and after I had gone through my savings, I was approved for disability. I still wish I could find some kind of job, but between the constant pain, and side affects of the pain meds, I wouldn’t trust myself working.
On to the point someone else mentioned, these young people that have barely, if at all, paid into S.S. The ones that are living on S.S. Disability, and are giving their friends tips on how to get approved. “All you have to do is tell your doctor that you are depressed because of friend/relative/acquaintance committing suicide, or attempting to, or, your parents splitting up, parents mistreating you, etc.” The diagnosis could be Bipolar, which seems to be reason enough to get on disability. (Isn’t this treatable?)While others are overweight, and this seems to be a good reason, also.
Am I the only one that thinks something is wrong here? How is it these doctors get these lazy people on Disability so easily? While others that obviously need the help, cannot get it?

James C. Finkel Sr.
12 years ago

If only people who put into Social Security received payments from Social Security it would not be in financial disarray.

tom miller
6 years ago

if politicians would have kept their hands off it in the first place it would be ok. I have to laugh when I think about state employees in AK many years ago wanting to opt out of Social Security pay in and were told that the feds could better take care of their money.

Don Manyette
12 years ago

One of the talking heads said a while back that we had two major political parties in this country. The evil party and the stupid party. The more I see what is going on, the more I realize he was exactly correct.

Robert Parsons
12 years ago

In all the comments about what is wrong with Social Security, why it is broke, and why the entitlement is helping break the government, I never hear anyone put the blame where it belongs. The problem with Social Security is CONGRESS! Originally, the money taken out of our paychecks for Social Security went into a “lock-box” where the only people who received money from it were the ones who paid into it. Congress moved it from the lock-box to the General Fund, so they could “borrow” from it for increased perks and pork. So far they have “stolen” 3 trillion dollars from it, putting in IOU’s which we all know will never be paid back. The obvious first step in correcting the problems associated with Social Security would be for Congress to put the money back into a lock-box, and only the people who paid into it could be paid from it. Of course, they never mention this as a solution because they will not give up the “goose that laid the golden egg.” Our present Congress is a disgrace, with their automatic “back-door” pay raise every year, golden parachute retirement with full pay and top-of-the-line benefits for life (even if they served only one term), free underground air-conditioned parking (heated in winter), free “franking” (which we all know is used for personal as well as “company” business, access to free government transportation (as in Speaker Pelosi’s case, riding around in a military jet that costs $54,000 an hour – just for fuel; what’s wrong with commercial first class, which is VERY comfortable, and costs less than $500 anywhere in the U.S.), and more perks than I have room for – but none of them ever mention these as waste that could be stopped if they had a moral, ethical or spiritual compass. Until we elect people to Congress who realize that they work for the people rather than the other way around, demonstrate ethical behavior, and stop with the elitist “we know better than the people what is good for them” attitude, things will never change in D.C. That Congress is allowing the current administration to trample all over the Constitution, accept the president’s practice of appointing “czars” who answer only to him, without Congressional screening (totally against the Constitution), appoint people to the Supreme court that have never even been a judge, put a man in charge of the CIA who has not one day of law enforcement experience – I could go on for several pages, but I’m getting sick to my stomach. Anyone reading this knows what I’m talking about. Until all this changes, nothing will stop the inexorable American slide into oblivion. God help us.

Laura S.
12 years ago

Seems like we are rewarding parents who do a bad job raising their children, thus resulting in ADHD and Bi polar kids. Reagan slashed the walfare system and then all the walfare people rolled over into the SSI Disability program.

Bob Hunt
12 years ago

I liked your July 9th posting especially the part dealing with the Energy Dept. To take that vein one step further I suggest there be a Flat Tax or Fair Tax, abolish the IRS sell all the office equipment at auction as wel as all the property and buildings they occupy. The funds from the sales could reduce the defecit these jerks have put on us and Geitner would probably have to find work in the private sector; that sector of America they have tried so hard to destroy.

Wesley E. Smith
12 years ago

Thank you for basing your articles on principle! It is not okay any more, in fact never was, okay to play one party against the other and always accept what “our guys” say, versus “their guys”.

If those that are supposedly on our side talk like those that are opposed to sound American principles, call them on it!

By not challenging people on principle and caving in to party leaders is how we got many R.I.N.O.s like McCain and hence Obama!


I just signed up as a new member because of your integrity!

Sincerely, Wesley E. Smith

Patty Sylvester
12 years ago

If you get your statement from SS it shows you how much you paid in over the years. Then you figure about how much you’ll recieve at retirement. If you devide that amount into your contributions, you’ll be surprised how quickly you get you money back. Anything over that is gravy. If they cut you off after your contributions were used up, alot of people would be in trouble. Originally SS was to help WIDOWS care for their family when the bread winner died. Politictions have scewed the system to get votes.

Gregory Kelly
12 years ago

I call them Republicrats.

12 years ago

I see people on SSI all the time most of them are younger than I am, I am only 51. A lot of the people that I see are drug addicts and community misfits and most of them are in better physical shape than I am.
When I see this it makes me so angry and frustrated with our government that I just want to scream. They are giving away our security and not even batting an eye.How are we going to stop our runaway government and get them to stop wasting our money.
You actually can’t blame the people that are getting SSI, if most people could get something for nothing they would do it and most would not worry about the consequences that it would have on others, It’s our society that has provided for “freebies” and created the problem we have today.
It is my belief that we should stop all the SSI payments to individuals that are proven through re-evaluation to be in good health, taken off the SSI program and make them become productive citizens and make there own contributions to the SS system.

Richard Matthews
12 years ago

I wrote John Boehner and told him he must want Republicans to lose this November. I have a plan that will allow any citizen less than 50 yrs. old to have an option to receive all their Social Security payments, including employer’s contributions, plus interest based on each years rate of a one year treasury bill. This money goes into an account similar to an IRA with restrictions on the investment vehicles to prevent the funds from losing value. This program will be optional. Citizens 50 and over will stay in Social Security and get all the benefits they were promised.

12 years ago

SS needs to get back to being locked down and not robbed for any government program…they have drained the system…however anyone making over $1M during their retirement should have a reduced SS allotment…many cannot make ends meet on under $1000/month…help those who really need it…lets start offering positive solutions and not just complaining…send your input to your Senators and Representatives…keep it up…now there is a Tea Party Caucus where hopefully some common sense ideas will spring forth…whatever happened to the statement by JFK “ask not what your country can do for you…ask what you can do for your country”…how true now…people seem to have their hands out…current polls give current Administration about 49% approval rating…strange that 49% of all Americans dont pay taxes…

12 years ago

Lets start by being conservative instead of being Rupublican or Libertarian or Tea Party. We the conservatives of America should stand up and fire our elected leaders that vote for any tax increase before cutting the largess of government. In normal day to day life, people have to live on a budget, do without until saving for what they want or go broke and file bankruptcy. Time the politicians in government need to make the really hard choices and do with less just like the majority of Americans have to do with less. I, for one, am not better off than I was four years ago when the democrats (liberals) took over both houses of Congress. People like to forget that Pres. Bush had to deal with democrats in control of both houses of Congress and they (liberals)busted the budget. The reality is that liberals think charity starts with taxation. Conservatives believe charity begins at home. Americans can be the biggest givers in the world if the reason is justified. Taxes are never voluntary and they only create resentment for the ones that receive that which has been taken from them by force in the name of fairness or charity. Remember in November to fire those who have and continue to cost the tax payers more and more of their hard earned money so they can buy votes or advance their socialist view of change on America. The time for a non-violent revolution at the ballot box is upon us! Vote the thieves out of office and elect people who will respect the Constitution of The United States in all they do, as the founding fathers intended it should be. Vote conservative!

Sheri G
12 years ago

I do NOT believe that SS should be done away with. Just take off all the add on benefits such as disability and survivor benefits and really take SS back to where it started and what it was intended for……the elderly who had worked and needed a guaranteed income after a certain age. We pay into the program all our working lives and it IS like a savings account for people who work. But there are should be strict limits as to who benefits from the program. It should be paid only to those who worked/contributed. Congress should not be able to raid SS for monies that they want to spend elsewhere like they have done so often in the past and never repaid. In fact if all the above happened SS would be available for many generations which was what it was intended for in the first place. There are just too many added on benefits that have nothing to do with old age and too many draw off SS who have never and will never contribute a dime. I used to be work in the medial field and was constantly amazed by people who were quite fit coming in for treatment for sports injuries and told us that they had been on disability for years……..and they had retired in Hawaii!! Don’t tell me they were entitled to those payments! And they should have never been able to draw off SS!

12 years ago

Social Security is something that we all are required ( forced ) to pay into all of our working lives. We are entitled to this money. Social Security is not a fund for those who have not contributed into it , such as welfare recipiants and illegal immigrants and those who cheat the system. Raising the age to collect what one has contributed into is totally unfair especially if you don’t live long enough to collect it. Our politicians have skimmed money out of the fund for other purposes and not one of them even pays into the system. They get rediculous pensions , the best health care, etc. so why would they care about the average retiree that paid into SS all of their working lives.
Here’s a solution …. All politicians should pay into social security like the rest of us and also have their lavish pensions reduced to a realistic level. The citizens of this country elected them into office to work for us … not themselves. They are public servents …. not elite gods as they have made themselves to be. They can vote obsene raises for themselves while cutting lost of living increases for SS.
Maybe if they ( politicians ) had to contribute like the rest of us and were once again subject to the same rules as they expect us to follow … then SS would not be abused as it now is …
As far as I am concerned they all should be fired come election time.

I agree with some of the other posts that suggest faising out SS and replacing it with mandated savings accounts.This would guarantee that what you pay into this account would be there for you at retirement as well as passing on to your survivors instead of the token $250 death benefit.

SS was created for the purpose of providing income in retirement. Good or bad idea it is something we have to live with … but raising the age at which one can begin collecting and hoping that many will not live to collect is not the answer. How would our politicians like the idea that they could not begin collecting their pensions until age 90 and should they not live that long then the pension would not be paid out ?

12 years ago

People don’t get disability/SSI/Medicaid just by saying they’re disabled. Substantial medical proof must be presented. I know this because my now adult daughter was born with real mental health conditions and mental retardation.
We went through hoops to get her into the program as she became an adult. Nowdays if you’ve been employed and want to claim disability it takes YEARS in most cases to receive it. Unless you have a horrendous situation you will be filing and then be denied two or three times, which means a two- to three-year wait for any help. I know, because since being laid off in 2008 I have experienced many disabling health conditions (diabetes, congestive heart failure, COPD, etc.) and since I was unable to afford the COBRA I’m in a horrible financial mess. I’m working on getting my pension and SS medical disabiity now. I too fall under that first group who won’t qualify for full benefits until age 66.

John Hardt
12 years ago

You all should check out Wisconsin Congressman Paul Ryan’s Roadmap for America’s Future. He appears to be one of the very few sensible people in Congress today. He’s the ranking minority member on the budget committee. Although he makes all the sense in the world, very few Republicans will give his plan the time of day, much less Democrats.
He’s the kind of guy I could get behind if he should ever decide to make a run for President.

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