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Conservative Counties Seceding – From Blue States

Posted on Thursday, May 27, 2021
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by AMAC, Robert B. Charles
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What is the next step beyond battles at city hall, state legislation insisting on election reform, defending constitutional rights, county-by-county redistricting?  Simple – leave the state.  That is happening as individuals and companies flee blue states for red.   Second step? Divide your state, create your own state, or join another state by voting our county outright?  Seems so.

On the one hand, many liberal states – from New York to California – are seeing homeowners, businesses, and security-minded populations relocate to freer, safer, more prosperous red states.  This phenomenon – disaffection and relocation, the mass fleeing of chaotic liberal cities and states – is well along.  See, e.g., https://www.marketwatch.com/story/people-are-leaving-california-and-new-york-for-red-states-heres-how-it-could-shake-up-the-political-landscape-2020-01-12; https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=fleeing+california+new+yorkt&qpvt=fleeing+california+new+yorkt&FORM=VDRE.

The surprising second step – for some – is voting to unsnap your county from a liberal state and try snapping it to another state.  If this sounds fictional or illegal, it is neither.  If it sounds unlikely, probably so, for now.  Still, these voters are sending a signal to local leaders, state legislatures, governors, and members of Congress.

While most view “county secession” movements as unlikely to prevail – since they require two state legislatures and Congress to consent – the point is real:  People are fed up.  They are sick of political correctness, “woke” or “cancel” culture, coercive public education, critical race theory, Marxist indoctrination, anti-constitutional and anti-patriotic sentiment.  They are exhausted by unending lockdowns, rolling riots, reverse racism, no rule of law, down-funding police, deriding democracy.

States from Maine to Texas, Georgia to Oregon, are finding themselves internally divided – breaking into red and blue, limited versus big government counties.  The effect is deep divisions within legislatures, more acrimony between counties, and a greater sense of lost state-wide consensus.

Some would argue that such a turn is not new since states often divide between rural and urban counties, big and small, wealthy and not, seaside and interior. But something new is afoot.  People are roiled, angry at left-shifting urban counties and state governments that walk over rights.  They are looking for solutions – and one is county secession.  This idea is gaining currency – from Minnesota and West Virginia to points West.  See, e.g., https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/01/29/jim-justice-virginia-counties-succeeding-welcome-west-virginia/4607728002/; https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/minnesota-state-rep-proposes-some-counties-secede-and-become-part-of-south-dakota/ar-BB1f5prG#:~:text=Even%20if%20it%20does%20pass%2C%20a%20county%20would,board%20and%20a%20two-thirds%20vote%20by%20county%20voters.

The latest case in Oregon, which just saw a remarkable vote last week.  Five large Oregon counties voted in favor of considering becoming part of Idaho,” including Baker, Grant, Lake, Malheur, and Sherman.  The five join two others that voted to consider seceding, Union and Jefferson.  The likelihood is small but sentiment strong. See, https://www.oregonlive.com/politics/2021/05/more-oregon-counties-vote-to-move-into-idaho-part-of-rural-effort-to-to-gain-political-refuge-from-blue-states.html.

Interestingly, the votes last week – were not even close.  Three-fifths of Grant county said to consider leaving.  Two-thirds of Lake county agreed.  Others were similar. The push to join Idaho – or create a conservative “Greater Idaho” from Oregon’s rural counties – is not flimsy.

What this movement means – beyond recalculation of state borders – is important.  People are tired of being told what to do, dictated to by out-of-touch leaders and cities, tired of feeling powerless, marginalized for their traditional, political, ethnic, historical, economic, or geographic identifiers.

The real message is not that America is going to see a mass switch in state borders – since that would take two conservative state legislatures and Congress, obviating the need.  The meaning is broader.

Three reasons describe why the movement matters.  First, people are inordinately angry – they are so angry that they are going to the polls in big numbers to consider voting themselves out of their own state. Given traditional state loyalties, that has almost never happened.  What it should tell legislatures, governors, and Congress is that people are at a boil-over point and are sending a message.

Second, this movement suggests that state-level policies are drifting – perhaps flying – away from old norms, becoming less respectful, less broad-based, not reflecting concerns, disinterested in consensus.  City-centered policies are becoming intolerant, intolerable, and dismissive of rural practices, preferences, attitudes, and needs – effectively pushing left-leaning priorities, from reduced law enforcement to ideologically leftist education, on traditional counties.

Third, the county-level reaction to leftist overreach, state disinterest in more limited government, lower taxes, less regulation, public safety, and freedom for counties, towns, businesses, families, and individuals is reflective of something happening at the national level, too.

Much like popular discontent with state leaders by rural and suburban counties, an increasing number of Americans are disgusted by a lack of attention to consensus building, let alone accountability, by Congress and the Biden-Harris White House.

Congressional and Biden-Harris’s talk of bipartisanship has been cheap and empty.  Repeating words like unity and tolerance without commensurate interest in compromise is not just a missed opportunity, misstatement of fact, or deception – it is the reason for mounting frustration among level-headed voters.

All these vectors to predictions.  Expect more talk of county realignment in different states, based on levels of division, constitutional processes, and urban-rural/suburban divide.  Expect more grassroots movements pushing state-level actions to restore balance, from legislation to recall petitions, civic disruptions to elevated heat on congressional members.

Finally, watch 2022 elections for control of state legislatures, governorships, and both chambers of Congress begin earlier, get nastier faster, and produce a major channeling force for one of the highest levels of popular discontent with leaders at all levels of government in living memory.

On the one hand, people voting with their feet to leave liberal states for more rational, accountable, and prosperous states – as well as getting politically active earlier to restore balance and respect for law in statehouses, legislatures, and in Congress is good.  Civic involvement is the Republic’s lifeblood.

On the other, these are fast-tumbling times, a period in history when disquiet and discontent are bubbling over.  Such times are – historically – dangerous.  Needed are Americans who care, who are willing to get politically active, running, petitioning, helping restore balance while respecting law and order.  Luckily for 2022, most people who think that way are conservative.  At least we know seven conservative Oregon counties think that way – and are sending a signal.  America is tired of leftist policies – and starting to take action to reverse them.

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R C
R C
2 years ago

Would love to see some counties in VA move over to WV.

Sharon Ormsby
Sharon Ormsby
2 years ago

Wouldn’t think that would be legal but if it were, you would also see the reverse, I would think.

Patty L
Patty L
2 years ago

Wisconsin has no place to go!

rvgrandma
rvgrandma
2 years ago

Most Eastern Washington counties would also love to leave the west side of the state and join conservative Idaho.

JudyG46
JudyG46
2 years ago

California should consider becoming it’s own COUNTRY! They are left-wing, socialist, anti-American values & standards, pro-abortion, anti-Constitution, law & order haters, illegal alien lovers, etc. They could have nothing but their electric cars, wind turbines, solar energy, get rid of all their plastics, go completely “green”, etc. If they were their own country, they could institute their far left agenda, they would be in total lockstep and have the same mindsets, have their own government, etc. or better yet, they could have all the left-wing, America hating, socialists and communists in our present government! We’d finally be able to drain the swamp!

Don s
Don s
2 years ago

Great article. Encouraging to the point that maybe america is on the road to saving itself from democratic idiot ology

Chris
Chris
2 years ago

American’s are tired of Democrat / Communist insane policies – and starting to take action to reverse them. God Help us stop the Democrat Communism

Saunders
Saunders
2 years ago

I would like to divert all the school tax I pay in NYState ($5000 annually) to the Police &
de-fund the Marxist schools. I want police. I do not want little minds full of mush
to have any political power.

Stephen Russell
Stephen Russell
2 years ago

How can we bust up CA State?
Merge with HI or NV?

Tish
Tish
2 years ago

Oregon had best do more investigation before jumping out of that frying pan ~ Idaho is full of libturds from ka.

Becky
Becky
2 years ago

Woohoo!!! Bet your butts! Those people still alive who have critical thinking skills, intelligence, and most importantly, SANITY, want sanity to return to politics. We are fed up with liars, stealing, cheating, rioting, and burning.
We are notifying you Commies. We are DONE with you. One way or another, we will get OUR America back.

Mike Chouinard
Mike Chouinard
2 years ago

I have followed this move to reform states for quite a few years. Th counties seem to have the best shot at following their desires to make their voices heard. MC

Wanda
Wanda
2 years ago

If you decide to leave these communist hell holes, please leave your past voting back where you are leaving…..your voting is what made these places unacceptable….learn from your mistakes and do not come to our conservative states with your same Democrat votes….if you are going to do that, then stay the heck where you are, we don’t need you.

Bonnie
Bonnie
2 years ago

We are seriously thinking about moving out of Oregon. It has become intolerable. Even if the secession could happen, it would not happen soon enough and we would still have to move because we live in Clackamas county which is right next to Multnomah county (where Portland is) and too many liberals live here and work in Portland. Oregon is being oppressed by commie Kate and her supermajority. Every year gets worse and worse, 2020 was the ultimate beat-down. TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION.

Ron Howard
Ron Howard
2 years ago

It is extremely unlikely that ANY state is going to allow its citizens from Any county to secede to a different state. I understand that those wishing to move to another state would love to take their home, community and property with them, but hat is wishful thinking of the highest degree. I would be astonished if it happened. I don’t blame anyone in a blue state, county or city wanting to run for freedom, and hope that those who want to secede are successful, but would suggest that if you really want to succeed in moving away just move. Good luck either way!

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