President Trump and rival Joe Biden sparred over environmental policy at the end of the presidential debate on Thursday, with Biden indicating he would “transition” away from dependence on oil.
“Would he close down the oil industry?” Trump asked. “Would you close down the oil industry?”
“I would transition from the oil industry, yes,” Biden responded.
“That’s a big statement,” Trump commented.
“It is a big statement, because…the oil industry pollutes, significantly,” Biden responded.
“It has to be replaced by renewable energy over time,” Biden added. “And I’d stop giving to the oil industry—I’d stop giving them federal subsidies. [Trump] won’t give federal subsidies to solar and wind. Why are we giving it to the oil industry?”
However, the former vice president proceeded to deny that he would ban fracking, despite having promised to do so several times during the Democratic primaries. While Trump pointed out that Biden had said he would ban fracking, Biden asserted that he would ban “fracking on federal land…no fracking and/or oil on federal land.”
Earlier in the debate, Trump mocked Biden’s environmental policies as equivalent to the Green New Deal.
Biden’s “plan is an economic disaster,” Trump said. “If you look at what he wants to do, if you look at his environmental plan—you know who developed it? A.O.C. plus three.”
I think we all know China will profit greatly if and when Biden stops the use of Fossil Fuel and Fracking. Let’s face it , the clean air act just means higher taxes and total Government Control.
Biden is not only a corrupt liar, he is a fool as well. He knows nothing about Fracking, yet he threatens to stop. I have read so many articles about the dangers of Fracking without any evidence to prove this theory. No proof Fracking is a danger to the Environment without a shred of evidence. The articles list Fracking has the potential to be a danger to the environment, but fail to back up their claim. As a cancer survivor myself, it is especially insulting to read Fracking has the potential or may cause cancer without any data. Keeping my fingers crossed President Trump will be victorious.
Question on NATO: I know that Trump was bashing NATO when he was elected in 2016 & since then says he forced other countries to put up more money to operate. My question is do Trump & Biden believe in NATO & think it is important to keep intact??? Asking this question, because it sounds like Trump wants to get out of WHO and WTO, and in the future it will probably be important for USA to be part of global organizations & not an outsider. Full disclosure that: I strongly support NATO & believe it is important for world peace.
The best part of the debate was Mr.Trump declaring that Joe Biden and company was the reason he decided to run for president.
Transitioning away from the oil industry is not the same thing as using renewable energy sources. If we do away with oil what surface are we going to drive those electric vehicles on? What are we going to use for lubricants (whale oil?)? What are we going to use to replace all of the plastics based upon petroleum? On the other hand, have we developed the ability to make solar panels that emit less pollutants in their manufacture and distribution than the solar panels save during their useful lives? Same question regarding batteries?
where do the demonrats think we will get the plastic to make their all-electric society?? I workrd in the plastic industry and all of the plastic we used was a byproduct of refining crude oil. No refineries equals no PLASTIC.
With the help of the CORRUPT MEDIA, he’s fooling about 50% of the population!
I have not seen any follow up on the 540 children at border that cannot be reunited with parents. Is the USA taking care of these children on US side or what is the solution? Does anyone know status of children?
After 47 years in politics and Biden’s known failures on foreign and domestic policies it’s a wonder people would vote for him. His corruption is documented. The radical left are propping him up with their utopian vision that does not work. Sadly, the mainstream media and his family are protecting him. I don’t think he has the wherewithal and stamina for the job! I support President Trump, but would not put a sign on my lawn because I live in a one party blue state.
If Biden wins, God help us all. We as Americans need to insure this doesn’t happen. It is pretty much a fact that Kamala will be running the show if elected, not Biden. The woman is a staunch Socialist. She supports total Government control and loss of our freedom. She is actually more corrupt than Biden, if that is possible!
Trump loves our Great Republic! Biden calling Trump a racist is so telling about the man making the foolish statement. How about the kids in cages! Biden accusing Trump of separating families and putting kids in cages was so bizarre! Loved Trump’s answer, simply brilliant! Obama and Biden are responsible for that, not Trump!
Who is the clown, Biden? I have a difficult time watching and listening to Biden, because everything out of his mouth is a lie. Does anyone really believe the theory of Global Warming! Biden doesn’t understand simple science! Who benefits the most from forcing Americans to stop using fossil fuel and only use electric cars? The answer is China does! More evidence old Joe is bought and paid for by the Chinese government. I want to know where Biden is proposing to find the necessary amount of copper to run all of the electric cars! Biden is a corrupt selfish idiot. Thank God for Trump!
Please Vote! Don’t let our country be destroyed.
There is a technology that would easily get everyone off-the-grid!!! FUEL CELLS!!! The only byproduct is WATER and NASA may use it to have water on dry planets/moons. “Plug Power” had units in Beta Testing in 1999 when GE merged with them and stopped “whole home units” and “whole subdivision units” developments!!! Once in production, approximately $8,000 would get anyone a Fuel Cell Unit, a catalytic converter to crack Hydrogen from the air, and a very small generator to start the units after maintenance! All needed would be a reasonable Maintenance Contract using current simple mechanical technology to maintain the units!!!!!
WHY HAS NO COMPANY DONE THIS SIMPLE NON-POLLUTING SOLUTION? Too many big companies are making too much money off of us using the lousy technology being used today!!!!! We could even “go back” to the safer DC electrical appliances and not need power converters!
No, crook quid pro quo Joe, pay for play Biden did not say transition, he said eliminate the oil industry, (fossil fuels). Ultra radical Harris wants that too. That’s a lot different and radical than, transition. Frankly, I hope one person i.e. (the President of this country) DOES NOT have that much power to do that. That’s the legislative branches job to debate and pass laws! People are looking TOO MUCH to one person to solve their problems! This is not a Kingship monarchy or oligarchy. We have a severely divided impotent Congress. They have given too much power to the other two branches of government. As free Americans, we should have the free choice of many different plentiful options of energy, not just one!
What Americans’ don’t learn from mainstream media is that California has to shut off its electrical supply rotating down time grid by grid. All the Silicon Valley, LA, San Francisco Lefties driving electric cars cannot charge when power is off. Hahaha! All the wonderful CA 2035 alternative energy mandate benefits are debunked by energy realities NOW. Things will just get worse for Californians. Unfortunately, California is mostly red, and in rural communities don’t support liberatards. Democrats couldn’t rule in CA or IL except in the big cities where huge populations fattened by illegals in “sanctuary” cities rule by the tyranny of majority vote.
I love that President Trump pointed out that China, India, many other nations are HUGE POLLUTERS, are FILLING THE OCEANS WITH PLASTIC TRASH, while America was economically crippled by the Paris Climate Accords.
Out of Biden’s own mouth… When Trump said China is giving money to farmers via his tarrifs… Biden says, “If I’m President, they’ll give me the money!” We know Joe, Chinese, Russian, Ukrainian money pads your bank accounts now. When Trump says in his second term, he’ll bring back a robust economy, Biden says he’s going to dismantle oil, coal, and natural gas production. When Trump asks Biden to explain how he got his millions, Biden says he never received money from ANY foreign country. We know, he got his cut directly from Hunter…through a front corporation… not directly from any foreign country!
Shouldn’t we emphasize the thousands of products, that people use every day, that are made from oil? Some say that over 6,000 items are made from oil
The morons ignore the fact that natural gas, from fracking, is a very clean fossil energy source. They also ignore the horrendous environmental damage done by lithium(major battery component) strip mining, and the huge disposal problem– cannot simply place in trash. Solar & wind have their own respective environmental impacts.
But, you know that Leftists don’t let facts, or logic, get in the way of their twisted ideology.
President Trump was presidential in the debate! By all rights should win in landslide!
Problem is lack of common sense, ignorance of facts because of liberalism in social and mainstream media, inferior education, lack of God given Inspiration, deception, fraud, etc. means we need to pray for Devine intervention again!
Also a red flag is Joe’s transition from oil industry.
I encourage everyone to research the environmental impacts of wind and solar energy, because they are actually detrimental to our ecosystem. This along with lack of forest management is potentially contributing to wildfires in California and droughts in America.
If you don’t understand by now that Anything the Progressive-Socialists put-out for public consumption is either a deception, or outright lie, than you haven’t been paying attention.
The 540 children at Mexico border really bothers me: Trump said that Obama built cages…..but what does that mean was whole family locked up in cages or did Obama separate the families also? I hope the USA has not come to punishing children because of parent actions or racial actions???
Proud to be an American but let us follow song : Jesus Loves Me”. Red or yellow, black or white you are precious in his sight. Please tell me that the United States has not been abandoning these children for the last 12-years. And Biden & Trump did not even flinch over the question.
Biden also said that he would grant amnesty to 11 million illegal aliens and give them a path to citizenship. That’s 11 million new Democrat voters.
So Sleepy Joe wants everyone to drive an electric car. Well, besides his positions on energy being completely asinine, in my state you have to pay an extra fee each year if you own an electric car, on top of what I consider already exorbitant license renewal fees.
The worst moment of the night was: There are 540 children at the border that cannot be united with their parents. That is horrible , unexcuseable to me. And Trump response that Obama built cages was really bad. Just think back when you were a kid 3-4-5-10-11-12 years old & have no parents and you are in a strange company. Our children in the world deserve better than this………embarrassing to America & to me. Worst part of the whole nite to me………….. Not even a sad dog look ???????????
If Biden and his Green Deal wants to have us not use any fossil fuels is crazy. 1. What will be the fuel for planes and military hardware, tanks, APC, jets, and helicopters? 2. What will the large number of locomotives use for fuel? 3. What will the steel mills use to melt the medal for wind turbines? 4. What fuel will the heavy equipment use for all the mining of minerals to make the batteries. 5. Where will we find the land to mine the minerals, as i understand it there will be some large hole to get the minerals out? 7. What in the hell will be do with all the autos and trucks that won’t have fuel to run?
I just don’t see how in the hell Old Joe can pull this off and he wants to get back in the Accord thing, it is just crazy thinking and no matter how you do it wind mills and soar cannot produce enough energy to power our electrical grid.
But California is not energy independent and imports over half of the oil that it uses and yet the Democrats here (where I live) seem to be in agreement with Biden. Probably a good portion of the country uses gas to heat their homes and they want us to freeze. Solar and wind energy will never provide enough energy for what we need to heat our homes, light our homes and businesses and charge all of these electric cars coming on the market. Plus wind machines have killed birds and bats – fewer bats – more mosquitos.
Just vote to stop this insanity. Transition from oil, yes, that’s cool. But only in about 50-100 years, not now. What a idiot. Anybody remember Solindra ( the great green company Oblama praised? Where are they now? Oh that’s right they got like what $500 billion and went belly up right after. Somebody got rich from our taxes. The great thing about Slo Joe is he’s already bought and paid for by the Chinese. I’m too old now, I can’t friggin’ learn Chinese. I had issues in Korea when I was the doc. Please, just do me the same way they do people that don’t agree. A bullet to the back of my head, it’s pretty much empty now anyway.
During the debate last night, Trump was told “you have two minutes to answer” I timed the responses, The moderator interrupted Trump after one minute thirty seconds several times.
Did you watch Sleepy’s eyes when he answered a question err I mean he made on of his selling points… His eyes were fixed looking upward, the head did not move like he was reading his script.
Wind Energy: Have you ever stood under a wind generator at a wind farm? They are extremely noisy. A farmer who lives next door to a wind farm told me they cause headaches. I attended a demonstration for a small wind turbine for for the electrical needs of one family. Doing the math, it would take about 20 years to pay for it self, I then asked the presenter the life expectancy of the wind generating equipment, he said 18- 20 years.
This debate was okay , but not great (at least not a bar room brawl like first one). My favorite takeaway from the night came from Biden “there are no Blue/Red states as they are all AMERICANS “. I hope Trump heeds that lesson & quits bashing Democratic states/cities and works to unite this nation for the goodness of all . Divided We Fall !!
Cannot believe Biden said he would transition away from the oil industry & slammed them for pollution. The US worked hard to get oil production to the level that the US is not dependent on foreign countries & that is why the American economy has done so well for the last 30-years. Well, Joe Biden just lost the election with this statement . Also , Trump asked Texas/Pennsylvania if listening and does not mention all of the other states that contribute to energy dependence. (Bad when only wants votes of these two states).
My concern is that there have been millions of votes already cats before the debate and the revelations from Mr. Biden.
We MUST make sure we get out to vote, either in person or absentee (if there is still time), and get everyone of our friends to the polls, even if we have to take them.
The whole Green New Deal (Biden’s plan) isn’t about saving the planet, science, or energy conservation. It’s about power and control! Same reason Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait years ago! Whoever controls the energy today, controls the people since everything needs energy. When the left starts living the Green life like they want us all to do, then maybe I’ll listen to them! Obama just bought a multi-million dollar mansion on the coast of Martha’s Vineyard so I guess he stopped believing in Climate Change too! It’s all a scam!!! If we are ever going to get to a full renewable energy society, it will be the private sector that does this NOT the government or any of their policies!
I also watched the entire debate, which was more subdue in tone, then the last but that wasn’t what I was listening for. I was following to hear every word before the media presents their biased interpretation slant. I did not find Biden to be convincing and he deliberately avoided answering questions asked by the moderator, who did try to get him to reply. I guess that what he spent those days hiding in the basement, practicing how to put what the Democrats wanted to be heard. He was very dismissive of Trump as an equal as he was the better. The best was his non-answer to environmental plan, and his response to what he plans to do to all workers in the oil industry, which handed all those voters to Trump. As to his (Biden’s) argument plan on healthcare, calling it Bidencare, his statement that anyone who “proves” insufficient income (every person on welfare and those who work off books) will be guaranteed healthcare. That was the final nail to his coffin because the funds for Medicaid come from Medicare funds which told me that us seniors are going to lose our Medicare benefits. I am voting Red across the board.
Saw a picture with the burial of huge turbine blades, a huge graveyard of them and other wind turbine parts in Oregon. The person who posted this on Ben Shapiro’s site also spoke of farm land that had been taken away by eminent domain so these could be buried. Because of what the turbines are made of, steel and plastics (produced from natural gas, feedstocks derived from natural gas processing, and feedstocks derived from crude oil refining), seems to me- you wouldn’t be able to have your wind turbines without your oil. Not to mention, these turbines break awfully quickly if they already need to be buried. Plastics also don’t break down, remember our grade school classes? Isn’t that bad for the environment?
My wife and I have been life-long Conservatives, I will b 89 years old in two weeks, and she unfortunately passed away 3 months ago at age 88, so was not able to vote for Donald Trump again this time. I have already voted a Republican ticket. However, we were not blindly devoted to any political party regardless of their platform, or what they stand for, as some unfortunately are. There have been a couple of times in past years when we voted based on who we felt was the best candidate for the country at the time. We voted for John F. Kennedy for president, but voted Republican for all other offices that year because we felt he was the best choice at that time. We voted for a Democrat Governor twice for the same reason, Reagan, as governor of California when he was a Democrat, and Governor Brown, father of the recent failed governor of California. We again voted for President Reagan as a Republican, who was the best president the country has seen in my life time. My wife and I stayed up all night praying for Donald Trump to win over corrupt Hillary Clinton. And while I normally cannot see myself ever voting Democrat for again, I am at odds with some basic parts of the Republican Party, too. I don’t like the support of big business no matter what, especially the denial of the proven global warming affects on the climate caused by factory pollution. The Republican Party puts support of big business pollution above the welfare of our climate, planet, and the health of our children and the future. The oil industry is one of the biggest polluters in the world, and while I am all for energy independence, that would be better achieved through more development of less polluting energy, such as natural gas, solar, and electricity than petroleum. Supporting industries that pollute to get votes, by saving those jobs, such as the coal industry, is not good for America. So while I would never vote for Biden, I do support phasing out the oil industry and replacing it with more efficient, less polluting, energy sources. I pray that President Trump wins this election, but worry that he has recently done much to hurt his chances.
People who have natural gas providing electricity know what a cost difference it makes.
They have to swallow quite a bit of propaganda to accept this fazing out of fossil fuels. If we don’t use our natural resources for both jobs and low prices for electricity, we aren’t using common sense.
If people want electric cars or solar energy, the demand will get people to supply it! That’s how the economy works. Do you suppose Joe thinks they can cover airplanes will solar panels to wean them off fossil fuels?
““It is a big statement, because…the oil industry pollutes, significantly,” Biden responded.”
What kind of an idiot would say something like that? Well, the same kind of idiot who would follow-up with this…
“I’d stop giving to the oil industry—I’d stop giving them federal subsidies. [Trump] won’t give federal subsidies to solar and wind. Why are we giving it to the oil industry?”
Biden, you are officially an idiot.
I like to ad to all those comments and they all sound like what I would be saying because I came from a socialist/communist Country and know what is all about. The top level of the people lived in luxury and we the lower lever had to scrape for what was left from them. This its about Control of the masses so they can live as they please and not be accountable to anyone. If you complained you disappeared so I hope that people wake up and realize what’s at stake and we PRAY TO GOD to expose all the evil deeds of this people and give DONALD TRUMP a huge VICTORY at this election AMEN.
GOD bless AMERICA
VOTE for DONALD TRUMP because God put him in the office for this times to help us and the Jewish people. Amen
One of two ways – if they figure out how to do it by 2035 or wing it like they did ACA.
Vice President Biden kept tripping over his own words and could not speak straight at many points during the debate. Not sure his mental capacity is where it should be to run the country. He does not sound like he could find his way out of a paper bag. Trump won in my opionion.
Yeah, I noticed the word dance, too, but consider that many who rely on the MSM for their “news” , haven’t heard a peep about this Biden thing yet, it may work. It’s not like the Bidens are the only ones, but they certainly are the most bold. Really, Biden held it together better than I expected, but the lies…sheesh.
The most flawed candidate ever to be nominated for President of the United States. Sets a new low in politics.
I didn’t watch much of the debate, but what I saw was biden accusing Trump of using public money for his projects, he never mentioned where all the money for social medicine and free child care, free college tuition, health care for illegals would come from. I can answer that, if you work for a living, it’s your wages that will go to pay. Your payroll taxes would amount to more than half your wages! You would not ever want to get seriously sick, you would wait your turn for a doctor appt. Just like in communist russia the government would dictate where you will work and for how much! I had relation that visited when I was young from a communist country, it was a frightening experience, they were always looking over their shoulder constantly whispering so anyone listening could not hear. When they returned they were imprisoned so they wouldn’t spread their experience to others. All we would need is to elect a puppet president like biden.
Biden’s ally, China, is the biggest polluter in the world and has shown zero interest in abolishing fossil fuels or in damaging their economy in favor of climate change. India and other developing nations have similar issues. That means that should America and even Europe bear the entire burden of eliminating fossil fuels we will make no significant impact, not a dent, on the climate and will have seriously damaged our economies and every energy consumer in the process. In other words, the “Green New Deal” is flat stupid!! Being promoted by a radical leftist bartender should tell us all we need to know.
Better to embrace three goals.
One is to continue domestically reducing the pollution from fossil fuels through science and engineering which has been ongoing for a long time already and has had very dramatic results.
Two is to continue investigating viable alternatives. Nuclear power is an excellent means of generating high volumes of electricity besides natural gas while being both safe, clean, and economical based on cost for each megawatt of power generated. We should be building nuclear power plants rather than shutting them down and building wind/solar farms which are not economical, not environmentally friendly, and not reliable.
Three is to work on means of dealing with climate change most of which is perfectly natural and outside of man’s control. Our Earth has been evolving and changing since creation and mostly due to natural causes. We cannot hope to change that, only to deal with it.
The biggest thing of all is to eliminate the politics and fear-mongering in favor of common sense.
That’s the problem! Biden believes government can transition us from oil and gas to something environmentally friendly. Reality Alert! There’s no friendly energy source to transition us to! Anything that could replace oil and gas would be monumental and likely be invented through the private sector. The ideas of the radical left are unworkable!
For any of us who remember the 1973 Arab Oil Embargo it was a scary wake up call for America! America responded by building more fuel efficient cars,homes and buildings. The Keystone Pipeline almost did not get built. It took a lot of time and hard work for America to become Energy Independent and now Joe wants to throw it all away! In the mid to late 80s the price of oil plummeted and had a drastic effect on Texas. I remember driving around San Antonio in 1988 and every street had numerous Bank Foreclosure signs on the front lawns of homes.It looked like an episode of The Twilight Zone! For many areas oil is the main business and we cannot just simply stop. Venezuela used to be a wealthy country due to oil and look at it now! I am in favor of alternative energy sources as technology progresses but it has to be phased in gradually, carefully and cost effectively. A coworker advised he listened to a radio program regarding California having all Electric Cars by a certain year. It was brought up that there are millions of cars in that state and if all of them were plugged in to recharge overnight at the same time it would overwhelm the power grid! We have seen how vulnerable the Ca Power Grid has been the last few years.
I too watched the debate and enjoyed it much more than the first. I still find it frustrating when a candidate does not answer a direct question but that is Politics. I was prepared for the worst from the Moderator but was pleasantly surprised. I am glad America got to hear about the Hunter Biden Scandal finally! Everyone at the FBI who sat on that scandal should be held accountable! I am happy President Trump brought up all the time Joe had to get important business done over the years but somehow did not! I would hope in future elections the debates would be scheduled sooner. With all the early voting this election there may be voters that changed their mind about Joe after last night but it is too late.
God Bless America