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Every American Should Read Biden’s Interview by Special Counsel Hur

Posted on Monday, March 18, 2024
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Special counsel Robert Hur and President Joe Biden

This man shouldn’t be president right now, much less for the next five years.

Before the moment slips away, it’s important to highlight one of the most significant, hidden aspects of Tuesday’s House Judiciary Committee hearing featuring testimony from former special counsel Robert Hur, who investigated President Biden’s willful illegal retention of classified documents: The Biden Justice Department withheld production of the transcript of President Biden’s five-hour interview by Hur until just before the hearing was scheduled to begin.

Now that we’ve seen the transcript, the reasons for the gamesmanship are obvious — as Dan McLaughlin’s excellent post from Tuesday illustrates.

On the one hand, the Justice Department realized that continuing to suppress the transcript would make Attorney General Garland and other Biden DOJ appointees too obviously complicit in the administration’s lies about Hur — in particular, Biden’s outrageous, theatrical claim that Hur had brought up Beau Biden’s death in order to play on the president’s emotions and trip him up. (Biden at the press conference: “How the hell dare he [Hur] raise that? Frankly, when I was asked the question, I thought to myself it wasn’t any of their damned business.”)

In reality, a realm increasingly remote from the president, it was Biden himself who brought up his son’s death. The transcript makes undeniable that Biden could not remember what year it happened. The relevant exchange involved Hur’s question about how Biden handled documents circa 2017–18. The president replied that “in this timeframe, my son is — either been deployed or is dying.” Amid stammering, Biden had to ask aides the year of his elder son Beau’s death — a tragic event that occurred in 2015, two years before the time about which Hur was inquiring. Beau Biden’s deployment was even less germane to Hur’s question: He was deployed in Iraq as an Army lawyer in the Judge Advocate General Corps for about nine months in 2009.

On the other hand, the transcript is such a disaster for the administration that the Justice Department knew it could not afford to give Committee Republicans time to read it thoroughly and incorporate it effectively into their questioning of Hur.

I’ll confine myself to one typical example, although many could be cited. On page 55 of the transcript, Hur asks Biden in what workspaces he kept documents at the vice president’s residence (the Naval Observatory); Biden’s response runs seven pages — although it was not a sensible response to the very simple question asked.

The president began by recounting that “I was the guy who wrote the Violence Against Women Act”; that agriculture is “a $4 billion industry in Delaware and the Delmarva peninsula”; that in a law-school torts class he was applauded for speaking ten minutes about a case he had not read; that “to make a long story short” he got a job out of law school at a firm in Delaware; and that “to make a long story not quite so long” he participated in a case while he was waiting for his bar results involving “this poor kid [who was] down a hundred-foot vessel, chimney, scraping the hydrogen bubbles off of the inside” but “was wearing the wrong pants, wrong jeans, and he —a spark caught fire and got caught in the containment vessel and he lost part of his penis and one of his testicles and he was 23 years old.” The senior partner told Biden to write a memo supporting a motion to dismiss the case, “and son of a bitch, it prevailed,” whereupon Biden thought “son of a bitch I’m in the wrong business, I’m not made for this.”

Thereupon, the senior partner invited him to go to the Wilmington Club, where “no blacks, Catholics are allowed — have been allowed to be members. The DuPont family name.” (Biden elsewhere in the seven pages repeatedly refers to the DuPont family, whom he describes as “Rockefeller Republicans” highly influential in Delaware.) Biden recalled being so taken aback by the Wilmington Club invitation that, in “the only time I ever lied that I can remember looking somebody in the eye,” he made up a story that his father was coming to visit that day. Then he immediately walked through “the basement on a public building and walked in with a guy named Frank and I said I want a job as a public defender.” This began “what got me — I had been involved in the civil-rights movement. That got me deeply involved in trying to reform the Democratic Party, which was a southern Democratic Party. We were a slave state by law.”

“And the whole point of telling you all this,” he continued, “is that I had a lot of material that I kept notes on” about the Democratic Party. And at that point, when he was 26 or 27 years old, Biden elaborated, “I went to work part time for a criminal-defense firm mainly, a real estate — there were five people. And so I was no longer a public defender. . . .” Then “one thing led to another” and Biden joined a group seeking to reform the Democratic Party. Even though he was young, they wanted him to run for the state senate. But he wanted to start his own law firm instead. “So to make a long story short,” he ended up running for county council, but “wanted to be sure that I was going to lose,” so he ran in a district that no Democrat had ever won. “And I won it. And next thing you know, I’m in a tough position. My generic point was that there was a lot of material that I had amassed that I wanted to save. I probably still have it somewhere. And so that stuff would travel wherever the hell I was.”

At that point, mercifully, Hur interjected, “trying to steer us back to the end of your vice presidency.”

To repeat, what I’ve outlined above comes from a single, uninterrupted, utterly non-responsive answer to a question about where Biden kept documents while living in the Naval Observatory circa 2016.

It is of course true that Biden has always had a penchant for straying far afield from the question or matter at hand, dilating on one tangent after another; we’ve seen it for a half-century. But the difference in today’s 81-year-old Biden is stark: Events in his telling are conflated and collapse into nonsense; he lapses into incoherence and often cannot recall and relate basic information.

Biden is asking Americans to elect him president for another four-year term, at the end of which he will be 86 and four years older than the senescent man who answered special counsel Hur’s questions in October.

So please, read the transcript, but not for what it says about Biden’s carelessness regarding the nation’s secrets. Instead, read it and ask yourself whether he should be president right now, let alone for the next five years.

Andrew C. McCarthy is a senior fellow at National Review Institute, an NR contributing editor, and author of BALL OF COLLUSION: THE PLOT TO RIG AN ELECTION AND DESTROY A PRESIDENCY.

Reprinted with Permission from National Review – By Andrew C. McCarthy

The opinions expressed by columnists are their own and do not necessarily represent the views of AMAC or AMAC Action.

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Steven Coughiin
Steven Coughiin
6 months ago

While obviously in decline, I wouldn’t put it past Biden to put on an Oscar worthy performance in order to avoid prosecution. Remember, Biden is a self-serving , 50 year veteran politician who has made a habit of lying his whole adult life.

Elizabeth S Misa
Elizabeth S Misa
6 months ago

He should not have been president at all!!!!

Robert Zuccaro
Robert Zuccaro
6 months ago

Touching story about the 23-year old losing his penis and a testicle in an industrial accident.. WTF? I don’t need to read a transcript to know Joe Biden has mid-to-late stage dementia. Problem is: Biden has always been an idiot; dementia just makes it WORSE! Don’t blame Alzheimer’s for what was always there. Thanks low IQ voters: I love paying $500 more per month for just groceries!

usmc7
usmc7
6 months ago

Joe Biden is not responsible enough to be a dog catcher in a small town.

William Hodge
William Hodge
6 months ago

Dementia does not cover up his immense stupidity.

Samson
Samson
6 months ago

We don’t need to read it to know that he shouldn’t be president now or he shouldn’t have been president in 2020. We know in 2018 they were going to steal the election and nobody did anything about it. Now you got to Alzheimer patient running our country illegally and in the Obama is probably running things in the background. They just do whatever they want and get away with it.

Jimmy Page
Jimmy Page
6 months ago

Demented? … anyone who believes that Brandon got more votes in 2020 than any President in history … and 10 million more then Barry !!! … while campaigning from his basement!…are the ones that need a cognitive test!

Pat
Pat
6 months ago

I have a strong feeling that half of this is an act to get pity. He figures if he acts senile, he can go behind the scenes and do a lot of illegal, damaging, and sadistic things that will further destroy this country and people won’t think it was him. He’s a sneaky liar that has amassed way too much power and wealth while sitting in public office.

anna hubert
anna hubert
6 months ago

Commissions ,Special counsels, interviews and findings of all sorts Results? Same old It just makes me think that one of us is not normal

DrScottD
DrScottD
6 months ago

Liars lie, cheaters cheat, thieves steal, bribery and extortion isn’t normal, perverts and deviates do perversion and sex crimes, but when you get sold out by foreign entities that are communist dictatorships, oligarchs or even enemies of your own country while you’re in elected federal office – sorry for your stupidity. That’s what Benedict Arnold did to us and it was not a good thing Joe. Taking and hiding top secret things from the Secure Briefing Rooms and smuggling them anywhere else isn’t befitting for Anyone. It’s espionage and to share with anyone who is not allowed to know, that’s usually enough to get yourself thrown in the DC Cesspool gulag with all your political prisoners you call evil names about. Disgusting that Mr. Hur and Mr. Garland refused to prosecute this Ahole even if he is a Bung holeyO

Gene
Gene
6 months ago

I didn’t think Biden would even be President a year after he was “illegally elected” President. Here he is 3 years later and he is still wandering around in an incoherent manner

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