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Best Outcome – Toss Suspect Ballots

Posted on Monday, November 16, 2020
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by AMAC, Robert B. Charles
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Dozens of claims, hundreds of affidavits, lawsuits in half a dozen states – all argue that President Trump should win.  A common thread unites the claims – and it is important.

Claims fall into pockets, including how mail-in and absentee ballots were disseminated, collected, processed, verified, counted, observed, and certified – in hundreds of counties.  If fraud occurred, finding the right remedy is vital.  How many ballots should be tossed?

Assessing the integrity of mail-in ballots is common to all these suits.  COVID produced a perfect storm – fear, millions of mail-in ballots, and elevated risk of fraud.  This is the first presidential election in American history to be decided by mail-in ballots.

Why do these lawsuits matter?  Why is filing them entirely right?  Three reasons.

First, without assurances of integrity in validation, collection, and counting of these ballots – the election outcome, whatever it is, will be forever in doubt.  The legitimacy of the inaugurated president – Trump or Biden – will be darkened.  That is why lawsuits and recounts matter.

Second, fraud is so likely with mail-in and absentee ballots that, absent proof of basic protections – like GOP observers close to ballot opening, signature validations, and no co-mingling – fraud may be “more likely than not.” If a pool of ballots is credibly alleged to be tainted, the legal presumption should shift – against counting them.

The comeback is that fraud should not be assumed, even if allegations support it.  That is nonsensical.  In fact, most countries in the world, and most US states before this election, severely limited mail-in ballots – for one obvious reason.  Fraud is easy and likely.

Look at the evidence.  Thirty-seven US states – until this year – disallowed widespread mail-in ballots, for fears of fraud. The view was bipartisan.  Around the world, mail-in ballots are disallowed. As one expert noted: “There are fraud problems with mail-in absentee ballots, but problems with universal mail-in ballots are much more significant,” and “most countries ban even absentee ballots for people living in their countries.”

As a matter of record, “most developed countries ban absentee ballots, unless the citizen is living abroad” or, in the alternative, they “require Photo-IDs to obtain those ballots”.  Examples, abound.  “Japan and Poland have limited mail-in voting,” and “special certificates” for the disabled.

Likewise, “France banned absentee voting in 1975, because of massive fraud in Corsica, where postal ballots were stolen or bought, and voters cast multiple votes.” Not surprisingly, “mail-in ballots were used to cast the votes of dead people.”  France, like other countries, fears a repeat.

Third, dependence of this election’s outcome on mail-in ballots, subject to fraud and traditionally disallowed or limited – suggests that the right remedy is disallowing all credibly suspect ballots.

If this sounds harsh, think about how we manage integrity in any other setting.  If blood samples are tainted, we throw them out.  If water quality samples are tainted, we throw them out.  If matters of great import are before us – we decide them based on data, following probabilities where they lead.

This is a strange year.  This election – beyond stakes, differences among candidates, questions of style, competence, and impact – is inordinately dependent on huge piles of mail-in ballots.

All else aside, lawsuits urging every legal ballot be counted, every potentially illegal one tossed, are entirely justified.  Given the outsized number of suspect ballots, the Supreme Court should apply a standard of review that focuses on a presumption against credibly suspect ballots.

In short, if misfeasance, malfeasance, or nonfeasance are involved – or credibly alleged – the presumption should be against counting these ballots.  Wherever that leads, we should all be content to land.  If in this process, Biden wins, so be it.  If Trump wins, so be it.

Bottom line:  Dozens of claims, hundreds of affidavits, and lawsuits filed in half a dozen states –amount to a call for election integrity, in a year overwhelmed by mail-in ballots. Credibly suspect ballots should not be counted, to assure the outcome’s legitimacy.  It is that simple. When the dust settles, all credibly suspect ballots should be out.

If the Supreme Court hears this case, arguments for tossing suspect ballots are “equal protection” – where different counties treated voters differently, and state failures to follow the constitutional requirement that state legislatures, not election officials, set procedures for Electoral College votes.  We will have to wait to see – but a strong argument exists, and Trump is making it.

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Edward T Curtis
Edward T Curtis
3 years ago

I agree wholeheartedly that this was a sham of an election. I don’t have a problem with mail in ballots, per se, but in this day and age with all the problems caused by the left, it’s just one more nail in the coffin against the free voting system we have. I know it cannot be done in a timely manner, but the entire election result(s) should be thrown out and start over again. Failing that, with all the charges being flung about, gather up all the votes, either by machine or mailed in, and recount and re-certify voter registrations. I know the “LEFT” always cries foul when it is suggested that all people registering to vote show a valid government issued ID. Doesn’t seem strange that the party who has been caught cheating at the polls is the same party against having a government issued ID. AND the excuses given to not make ID mandatory are1) Poor people can’t afford a government ID. Let’s see, how much money was wasted by the LEFT trying to impeach President Clinton and have all the baseless investigations. I have heard anywhere from $30M to $50M. I can’t believe it would cost that much for government employees to go to houses, hospital, workplace, soup kitchens, et al. to take a current photo and and information and for some other government drone to obtain a copy of birth certificates, naturalization papers, etc. In the long run it would be cheaper and easier to have a fair election with only a miniscule number of bad votes that may get through. My son-in-law just came up with an improvement to the above. Only those in hospitals, nursing homes, jail would be contacted where they are; others needing transportation could be afforded the opportunity to receive one free round trip via UBER, LYFT, Public Bus, etc to a government office to register for the vote. Still probably cheaper, in the long run, than all the money it will probably take to investigate this current election.

Let’s at least try to fix this so it doesn’t happen again and again.

Stephanie Staker
Stephanie Staker
3 years ago

I have an 18 year old grandson who voted for the first time. He was so excited about it. He studied the propositions and the people running for office. I am blessed that he is Trump supporter. On Saturday, Nov. 7, he came running downstairs asking me, “Is it over?” He read on Google that Biden won. I had to explain to him how none of the states had certified their votes yet and the Electoral College must ultimately certify who won. He said that all he read online was that Biden won…not the “presumptive” winner but that he won. How many other 18-year-olds who voted this year for the first time are going to be confused? How many will think that voting doesn’t matter so why vote? This article by Mr. Charles is spot-on as usual.

Danny Estridge
Danny Estridge
3 years ago

Look, I can’t walk or stand long enough to vote. I rely on absentee ballots and request one for every election. I can’t do any better than that, yes I can show a voter ID if needed, but it has to be quick, due to what I already said. I don’t like “blanket” mail in ballots. There should be a reason as to why you vote absentee. Otherwise, I’d delete all mail in votes, who knows who or where they came from? If you need to vote absentee, well I can get my Dr..’s reason, or I can go to state of New Mexico with my disabled placard for the car. I hate absentee voting, I always loved standing in line, it may not have been too much fun sometimes, but you felt like you actually did something, not like today’s mail in BS. Did mail in’s even look at the rest of the ballot? This is supposed to be a democracy, not a vote by mail system. We need a total overhaul of the voting system, making sure we keep all states as individuals, but insuring no BS mail in ballots.

Cathryn Pindzola
Cathryn Pindzola
3 years ago

Why does the candidate (Trump, etc) have to pay for re-counts? Surely, this should be paid by the federal/state government that screwed up the original count. Am I missing something here?

Lorey
Lorey
3 years ago

The spineless g.o.p could’ve pass a law using S.S.N. numbers no number no duplicares. It would’ve got rid of the dead people & illegal voters. So why doesn’t the gop want 2 do this ???????

FORGETBIDEN
FORGETBIDEN
3 years ago

Maybe Trump will fire Barr over the next few days for not releasing the Durham report. Has Durham done anything ?

FORGETBIDEN
FORGETBIDEN
3 years ago

No wonder Biden didn’t campaign. #1 . He knew he had nothing to say #2 He knew the fix was in.

FORGETBIDEN
FORGETBIDEN
3 years ago

Henderson county NC announced they would count votes until Nov 13. How do they come up with this date ?

FORGETBIDEN
FORGETBIDEN
3 years ago

We know now that the Georgia system is rigged. The Dominion softwear has comtaminated voting in several states but the corruption
can be done only by those who want to falsify the vote. So who knows if the Ga results on Jan 5 will be correct.
Georgia has a repub governor which is a point of investigation itself.

Kim
Kim
3 years ago

If there is any indication that an election or a vote was tainted, it should never be counted! We’ve seen this time and time again–the liberals and whiny millennials keep pushing and pushing for what they want, legitimate or not. Integrity doesn’t enter into it. They don’t even know what it is. The end justifies any means.

What will it take for an election to be assumed to be “clean”, free of doubt, honorable? I hope our elected officials will begin with eliminating early voting and mass mailing of ballots. Bring on voter ID (photo and unique voter number). We need some sort of purple finger validation. Get rid of these machines that were made elsewhere and have connections with Pelosi and Maduro…and now I hear that votes are first tabulated in Europe and then sent back here!

In this state, the vote for our highest court seat was recounted, and now the Republican leads by 350 votes. There must be very close monitoring of our elections or this country will find itself in chaos, poverty, and mutiny.

MOCountry
MOCountry
3 years ago

People keep blaming the dimocrats for all the law breaking, lying, underhanded bs they have been doing for, especially, the past 12 years. BUT, it’s actually the mainstream “media” that has enabled them to succeed without a hint of backlash or punishment. This embarrassing debacle of an election is just the latest confusing mess the “media” has allowed them to probably get away with. As in most communist countries, the propaganda outlets only tell their faithful listeners what they want them to hear, and keep silent on anything that could actually keep people informed. Of course, they will make mountains out of molehills when it supports their cause. Until more of us realize the media is the real enemy of the country right now, it WILL ONLY GET WORSE. Not gonna hold my breath!

Willie
Willie
3 years ago

The democrats told the American people before the election that they were going to cheat steel or buy the votes and they did.Voting by mail will never work . Like the old saying goes you must be present to vote.

Dino Deplorable"chump"
Dino Deplorable"chump"
3 years ago

I think that any AMERICANS with any common sense are fully aware of what the democrats did and it WILL come back to bite them in the posterior.

Tim Terry
Tim Terry
3 years ago

Excellent article ? ?
I want my legal Vote to count and Not be negated by an illegal one… ID Voting verification is the only way 2go. And even w/ that it still matters Who Verifies n Counts the Votes, machine integrity too. What a sinful shameful sinister state of affairs exists in these United States ?? of America when the character trait of trust is compromised. God hav mercy… or go ahead and let Your wrath fall. 60M innocent preborn babies blood screams silently from Heaven for justice. #NeverAdemoncrat demoncrat=Hypocrisy #anything4avote

David
David
3 years ago

Any judge that rules to have them thrown out will be harassed to no end. That is how the Communists, sorry Democrats, operate.

Dolf Reeves
Dolf Reeves
3 years ago

The red flag was stopping the count when PresidentTrump had the lead and was pulling farther and farther ahead of Biden. When the count re-started, the President’s massive lead had dissipated. How can a candidate who can not answer a question, can not complete a sentence and spent most of his time in his basement beat a President that never stopped campaigning? The president had huge crowds and his record alone should have given him a landslide. The Democrats didn’t have Joe campaign because the FIX was in.

Nero Wolfe
Nero Wolfe
3 years ago

Disallow mail-in ballots, it a pathway to fraud. No more ; magic pens, and electronic processing of ballots. Poll watchers should be on the watch up close not 16 feet away.Voter ID is essential to provide an honest result. Most important is that once the polls are closed the ballot counting “stops”.
The voting is for only one day not multiple days.

Sen.Dave
Sen.Dave
3 years ago

Something very important to consider here. The election fraud seems to have begun in mass after the polls were closed and mail-in ballots brought in for the count. At that point the intimidation against Republican Poll Watchers and closed room secrecy began. From then on, Biden votes suddenly surged against reasonable statistical odds, through the night and the following day until his numbers surpassed Trump in nearly every one of those battleground states. The vote counting was controlled by Democrat Secretaries of State in every suspect state and Democrat supervisors in every suspect county. According to the numerous credible affidavits, these Democrat operatives are the ones who committed the malfeasance. The Republican voters were the victims here, not the Democrats. In any FAIR contest, cheaters are disqualified….Period. That is how we prevent cheating from repeatedly occurring – disqualify them!
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If the US Supreme Court.has any validity whatsoever, it will throw out all of those mail-in ballots that were counted after polls were closed and when egregious violations of election laws began. Of course the Democrat operatives will push to have every vote counted….they are the cheaters!!. And if Democrat voters feel cheated out of their vote because of it, then they should have voted more sensibly in years past. For they are the ones who elected these morally challenged politicians, and therefore party to the fraud.

I’m telling you with great certainty that if this election is allowed to stand as it is, with possibly a hand slap to the cheater, we will NEVER see a fair election again. To date, this is the most important election of our lives. Do not let the Democrats steal this election!!

Walter
Walter
3 years ago

If Joe & the Ho get in office there are a lot of people who will have committed treason and if we find out who they are there should be no free pass for them. Since when is censorship of factual information acceptable and constitutional. Spreading lies about our President Trump and inciting violence on Conservative Americans is not ACCEPTABLE to us Patriotic Americans. Joe can’t put two thoughts together. His time has come and gone. If he had answers, he certainly had the time in office to fix them instead of padding his bank account.

Centurion
Centurion
3 years ago

Punish the demoncRATS (aka communists). Those states where fraud is proven (eg, Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, etc.) MUST have their electorial votes for President disallowed by the SCOTUS! That will reduce the total number of Electorial College votes, but they would be for biden (because of fraud) anyway.

Bill Brown
Bill Brown
3 years ago

The National Education Association and the American Federation of Teachers are COMMUNIST organizations that are teaching OUR Children Anti-American sedition!  Members of those UNIONS should NOT be allowed to Teach!!  Join the Trump Movement – The American Revolution 2.0!!!  Become a Counter-Revolutionary!!!  Stand-up for Our Republic!!!!  Remove Every DemocRat!!!!!

Bill Brown
Bill Brown
3 years ago

Get our Children our of Public Schools and turn-off Mainstream Media!  Become a Free American!!  Join the Trump Movement – The American Revolution 2.0!!!  Become a Counter-Revolutionary!!!  Stand-up for Our Republic!!!!  Remove Every DemocRat!!!!!

Bill Brown
Bill Brown
3 years ago

The DemocRats/Communists try to defame people by calling them NAZI’s.  NAZI is a German acronym for the National Socialist German Workers’ Party!  Americans have been brainwashed to believe that NAZI’s means extreme Racists and “right-wing” Authoritarians!  In fact, NAZI is the German form of Socialism!  It is a lie to call it “right-wing, as defined in most dictionaries.  It was, in fact, a “left wing” authoritarian group, exactly the same as the DemocRats of today!!!  The DemocRats of today, just as the NAZI’s, have also become Racist, condemning all white people (and anyone else) who will not join their “Cause”!!!  Become a Counter-Revolutionary!!!  Stand-up for Our Republic!!!!  Remove Every DemocRat!!!!!

Bill Brown
Bill Brown
3 years ago

If you believe in Socialism, you have been BRAINWASHED!!  For Socialism to exist, “the elites” must, by necessity, forcibly take (e.g. taxes) what everybody earns and dole it back-out to match their version of equity!!  And, of course, “the elites” “earn” the right to keep “their share”!!  Through generations of Socialism, Communism, that impossible mythical state where there will be no need for Government because all People have become “enlightened,” is achieved!!!  Join the Trump Movement – The American Revolution 2.0!!!  Become a Counter-Revolutionary!!!  Stand-up for Our Republic!!!!  Remove Every DemocRat!!!!!

Bill Brown
Bill Brown
3 years ago

In the 1930’s, Adolph Hitler: “Heute Deutschland, Morgen die Welt!” (Today Germany, tomorrow the World)!!  Today, Chuck Schumer in the same year he threatened OUR Supreme Court: “Today Georgia, next we change the World!”  The Leaders of Socialism never cease to be corrupted by its EVILS!!!  Join the Trump Movement – The American Revolution 2.0!!!  Become a Counter-Revolutionary!!!  Stand-up for Our Republic!!!!  Remove Every DemocRat!!!!!

Bill Brown
Bill Brown
3 years ago

Constitutionally, in States where “Mail-In Ballots” were allowed by any court’s decree or by a government official, they are invalid!!  By our Constitution, only each State’s Legislature can make the rules on how Federal Elections are conducted in their State.  State and/or Federal Courts can invalidate for equal treatment and/or send back for revision what a State Legislature has done but they CANNOT implement/decree how the processes may/can be done!!!  Election results have been changed in at least 5 States by “Mail-In Ballots”.  If the US Supreme Court upholds our Constitution, none of such “Mail-In Ballots” are legal/valid!!!  The DemocRats/Communists hope Americans will remain silent!!!  Join the Trump Movement – The American Revolution 2.0!!!  Become a Counter-Revolutionary!!!  Stand-up for Our Republic!!!!  Remove Every DemocRat!!!!!

Nana 6
Nana 6
3 years ago

I received 7 mail in ballots from various officials. Voted in person!! Suspiciously I have received mailings (not ballots) for 2-3 other persons who DO NOT live here. Called those places to remove them from my mailing address. May God smite those who are most dangerous to our Republic. Voting must be universal throughout the states. MAGA-KAG.

Carroll Padgett
Carroll Padgett
3 years ago

CDP– Amen brother. Fairness, integrity and confident assurance in our election process MUST be guaranteed for our Constitutional Republic to survive.

Dave
Dave
3 years ago

Here is the problem with most of the fraud allegations. No individual or small group of “events” is enough to change the results. So judges are disinclined to rule in favour of the fraud claim as “not going to change the result” seems to be the metric most often used. (What about the rule of law and punishing vote fraudsters regardless of the affect on this election?) However in aggregate, when all the little bits of fraud are added together, it CAN affect the result. And then there is that computer system (name escapes me at the moment) that apparently has been used to throw elections in other countries…if true, that would not only change the election back where it belongs, but expose just how corrupt our government has become.

Diana
Diana
3 years ago

What is happening with the voting fraud, Joe Biden allowed to run for president with very limited mental faculties & Kamala Harris ready to step in to take his place when he steps down soon after he’s inaugurated WILL happen again. Why was this not stopped early on & why was Biden, Harris & those involved in the voter fraud allowed to get away with it?
I’m waiting for an answer & I expect to get one!

Marvin Weeks
Marvin Weeks
3 years ago

I am very troubled by this election. Vote counting stopped in the middle of the night when President Trump was leading. The chain of custody of some of the ballots in some states is questionable. Many allegations of fraud in several states. Republican observers at vote counting centers were hindered and sometimes excluded from watching the vote count. In addition the Dominion software used for vote counts in several states may have transferred votes from President Trump to Joe Biden. Not to mention election laws being changed by Governors and courts in violation of the U.S. Constitution. If all of these issues are not thoroughly investigated and somehow remedied most of us will never have confidence in our election system.

Jim Shedd
Jim Shedd
3 years ago

I said from the beginning, if mail-in ballots were to be used they should only be mailed to registered voters who requested them. However, here in the state of Nevada ballots were sent out to anyone listed on the voter rolls without the rolls being purged of inactive voters who may have moved out of state, died, etc. Though I have no more than anecdotal evidence, I heard numerous reports of discarded ballots found in trash, left alongside postal boxes, in doorways, etc so they could be retrieved/stolen by anyone and fraudulently completed by others. Dead people allegedly “voted.” The Nevada primary election was conducted by mail with no proof of identification required. (I did place copies of my Nevada drivers license and retired military ID in the envelope to prove I was the once casting my vote).

I voted early in the November election, in person, and though my signature was ruled invalid when I failed to sign my full name, my second attempt to sign with stylus on the electronic screen was “smudged” since I’m left-handed. My third attempt, at the suggestion of the poll worker was done by holding the “pen” at/near the end of the stylus away from the screen and signature was accepted, though I’m sure my signature in no way matched the way I normally sign on paper with pencil or pen. Of course, as in the past, when I attempted to show my ID I was told the poll worker could not look at it.,

Ann Miller
Ann Miller
3 years ago

if fear was an issue, it didn’t have anything to do with the voting. 3 Legals way of voting would suit all situations: request absentee, go to the booth on voting day, or go to your local voter registration office. No need for anything else!

Mary S.
Mary S.
3 years ago

The whole thing about mail in ballots is a no-brainer, yet those in charge seem to be out to lunch when it comes to figuring out the possibility of illegal processing of those ballots. I find it outrageous that people who are placed in charge of those mail in ballots are allowed to process them any way without oversight and especially the presence of other safety features. How dumb can they possibly be to assume that it will all be processed honorably. Ha! What idiots came up with the practice of mail in votes!!!

Chuck
Chuck
3 years ago

Sorry, folks. From this view point, if Biden becomes president the shadow of doubt and illegitimacy will hang over his presidency. It will probably be worse than it was Obama.

MBS
MBS
3 years ago

For the next Presidential election, I suggest that – because it is a NATIONAL election – we have one set of rules for everyone; that is, national rules for every state. Take this NATIONAL voting for President out of the hands of each individual state. No mail-in ballots; absentee ballots only for a very small number of voters who meet very strict requirements. We could have two weeks of pre-voting before the November date and at 7 pm on that date voting stops. The voting places close and armed guards are placed at the doors so that no one goes in and/out without being documented and absolutely no boxes of ballots suddenly appear. Something is very wrong with us it we cannot set aside time every 4 years to go vote – in person – for our president! Voting in the USA is the most important thing we can do – CORRECTLY – for the future of our nation. The United States of America is way too important to let it get in the hands of the AOC’s of the world!

Impeach Crazy Joe
Impeach Crazy Joe
3 years ago

“If blood samples are tainted, we throw them out. If water quality samples are tainted, we throw them out.” Ya missed one. “If conservatives are winning, throw them out.”
Nothing that Rob Charles says here is wrong. But none of it matters, because the media and the left have brainwashed a significant proportion of the populace that any and all claims of fraud are… fraudulent and that to say or believe anything else, to take or recommend any actions that might slow down or stave off the impending Crazy Joe Train Wreck is nothing but an attempt to “steal” Crazy Joe’s rightly won prize. Think about it. Have you seen ANY story pertaining to voter fraud that does not refer to, at best, “unsubstantiated claims” of voter fraud? And don’t discount the power of ignoring a story and not printing it. So I am quite sure the fix is in and we are stuck with Crazy Joe, at least until they 25th amendment him out and get their REAL candidate in office. I say, impeach ’em both.

John Lemley
John Lemley
3 years ago

This article is correct. Fraud is rampant and systemic. Some of the comments have called for voiding the election and voting again. Great idea. Let’s do it. Let’s send our vote for President Trump to the Republican Headquarters and to the White House and any other office we think appropriate. I am sure we will pass up Biden. I do not know how to organize this, but we need to take the lead and do it.

Phyllis
Phyllis
3 years ago

We should never use mail in ballots again. Go back to absentee ballots and everyone, no exceptions, should show valid ID.

Denise
Denise
3 years ago

Voter ID and in person voting only should be allowed. Biden and his illegals are trying to steal this election and our country. They must be stopped!

Leonard Dimon
Leonard Dimon
3 years ago

I never agreed with mail in ballots. First there is the trust issue. All seven unions threw their support to the Democrats after Pelosi bailed them out again for the third or fourth time. Secondly, has anyone not received a package mailed to them? Lastly, everything on that ballot, including the envelope is subject to review by both parties and if one thing is wrong, can be nullified. Democrats made sure many were counted without representation by the Republican.party.

Wayne Peterkin
Wayne Peterkin
3 years ago

Yes, fraud is an issue and has been for many years. It is worse in this election for the reasons stated in the article. The problem today is that depending on the actual detailed procedures used in each state, it may be impossible to determine if any particular mail-in ballot is valid or not. Therefore, every single mail-in vote in many states must be suspect, and therefore should be discarded. In essence, that disenfranchises those voters who cast an otherwise legal vote, but an honest election result is more important. I saw a very interesting note yesterday about the prospects for the president remaining in office were the election challenged all the way to the Supreme Court, about how the 12th Amendment requires the resolution i congress. It was fascinating and cause for hope.

LauraC
LauraC
3 years ago

I used to be an absentee voter in Texas and then in SD. It was great for me as I was on the road 365 days a year but could still participate. This is the case for many full time RVers in the country. However, I was NEVER sent more than one ballot and had to sign with a signature that was on file. I would willingly give up my ability to do this if all mail in balloting was discontinued so we could be assured we were not being disenfranchised (used to be a favorite whine on the left) by massive mail in voter fraud as happened in this election. What is really horrid is the bold, in your face nature of the cheating. Kicking out observers despite court orders…who gets to get away with that? Not we common folk. One person, one vote and do it in person with ID. Anything else is catastrophe.

Carol
Carol
3 years ago

You want an election process without this kind of fraud, talk to your State reps and State senators! This is where this battle lies, not in the Federal Government!

Kevin
Kevin
3 years ago

That would be a good starting place. Then I would ask to have all votes entered via the software audited next. Then I would ask that Senate and Congressional votes also be audited. We cannot let this type of behavior go unpunished. I can remember as a kid how we learned that the governments in South America & Central America were labeled as banana republics and now we are one! BEcause of the actions of a few we have become the laughing stock of the world. Wonder how many people around the globe are changing their plans on trying to get to America to be free?

Krell51
Krell51
3 years ago

The best outcome is to determine how many votes were switched and erased by the Dominion software then switch them back. A good programmer can look at the source code and determine the exact number. Then arrest everyone involved either directly or indirectly with this act of treason!

George Massey
George Massey
3 years ago

This election cycle is a travesty. A full and thorough investigation through legal action, lawsuits and potential involvement with the Supreme Court.

Mark Jebe
Mark Jebe
3 years ago

I’ve used mail-in ballots most of my life, without any problems. I think it can be done securely, if that’s the desired outcome.

I’ve spent half my adult life overseas, and much of the rest moving around the country, wherever my career led, so more often than not, when it came time to vote I had to contact my county election board to request an absentee ballot. I’ve always had to be registered to request a ballot, and after filling out the ballot I’ve had to sign and have it notarized before mailing it back.

It’s always worked. I’ve always been registered in advance to vote, my ballot has always arrived in the mail, I’ve always been able to get it notarized, and it’s always been accepted and counted by the county election board. It’s not quite as convenient as voting in person, but it works.

Of course, I’ve always lived in states that take election integrity seriously. I’ve always had to provide a photo ID when voting in person or by mail.

I’m guessing the goal this election cycle wasn’t a secure election, it was an insecure election, and that’s why all sensible means of securing the vote were abandoned. A secure election would have interfered with the result they wanted.

Carol
Carol
3 years ago

Totally agree with this article but how do you convince the left? Most democrat voters I know, don’t think there’s massive fraud. If the SC thinks there is and enough ballots are excluded due to suspect of fraud and the election is then Trump’s victory, the left will burn down America! That could set of a civil war cuz the left can’t stand losses! They no more want unity, they want conformity! They hate and that hate will come out more and more! This whole thing scares me and I hate to be pessimistic but I think if this ends up in the SC, and I do, I think the SC will rule in favor of Biden to keep America from the hate of the left! Animal Farm is real: Democrat leadership are the pigs while the BLM and Antifa as well as other leftist groups are their dogs. The rest of us are the animals and Trump right now is the horse!

Ed J
Ed J
3 years ago

Given the nefariousness of the Demsheviks who would most definitely be the ones most likely to engage in efforts to distort and compromise our elections, and even if we determine a significant number of ballots were illegally cast and counted (and then eventually UN-counted), there would most likely still be many, many more questionable ballots that would escape scrutiny and thus be fraudulently counted, the result of which would be to skew the election toward Comrade Biden and Commissar Harris as has been the case.

I expect that ongoing efforts to throw out suspect ballots will in the end essentially end up resulting in a onesie-twosie like disqualification of a small number of illegal ballots, while legions of other illegal ballots will remain under the radar, and therefore will be “counted.”  The 2020 election will never be seen as a valid statement by the American people as to whom they truly wanted to represent them, especially when the genuine expectation was that President Trump would emerge with a commanding mandate from the nation with a significant number of electoral votes.

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