“Seniors are overwhelmingly in favor of repealing ObamaCare, 59% to 35%. That’s a 24 point spread.” -
BOHEMIA, NY, Sep 21 – “The president’s opponents point at what they call his record of failure as justification for firing him in November, but his record of achievement – namely the passage of ObamaCare – may be his undoing come the election,” according to Dan Weber, president of the Association of Mature American Citizens.
The more people learn about the 2400-page Affordable Care Act [ACA], the stronger the opposition grows, Weber noted. “A clear majority of Americans want to see the health care law overturned, 53% to 42%, according to Rasmussen Reports. But seniors are overwhelmingly in favor of repealing ObamaCare, 59% to 35%. That’s a 24 point spread.”
There are a variety of reasons for the law’s lack of support, not the least of which is concern about the damage it will do to Medicare, particularly when you consider that some $716 billion will be siphoned from Medicare to pay for new ObamaCare entitlements, the AMAC chief pointed out.
“Then there’s the fact that the independent experts who’ve analyzed it say that seniors are likely to lose their coveted Medicare Advantage programs as a result of ObamaCare,” Weber continued. “And, there is great concern that law’s Independent Patient Advisory Board has so much unchecked power that it could wind up acting as a means of rationing health care to the elderly.”
He called the law “perhaps the most insidious piece of legislation ever enacted by the U.S. Congress. It’s a not-so-veiled attempt to minimize our Constitutional rights,” he said. “ObamaCare’s contraception/abortion mandate clearly goes against the spirit and the letter of the First Amendment, which guarantees religious freedom.”
Numerous lawsuits have been filed by religious colleges and universities across the country challenging the Constitutionality of the mandate. The latest suit was filed by Missouri’s College of the Ozarks on September 17, Constitution Day. A statement issued in conjunction with the school’s challenge said in part:
“The College’s compliance with its sincerely-held religious beliefs is the exercise of religion within the meaning of the Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment. The Mandate, narrowly-crafted religious employer exemption, and “safe harbor” make it impossible for the College to comply with its religious beliefs. The enforcement of these provisions violates the Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment.”
NOTE TO EDITORS: Dan Weber is available for telephone interviews on this issue. Please contact John Grimaldi at 917-846-8485 or jpgrimaldi@verizon.net to set up a chat.
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Nothing will matter unless Romney starts fighting back with force and determination. If he doesn’t start to show that he has the guts to confront the people who wish to destroy America, then we shall all lose. We will lose our country. I hope Mr. Romney gets that in his heart and soul. It is a reality.
Obamacare is a tax. Taxes raise the cost of living and destroy business.
Romney has to knowledge to put us on the right course.
We don’t need to raise minimum wage….we need to remove regulations that increase the cost of goods.
I was wondering when someone was going to mention “2016″. It is a sobering movie, well documented and a strong indictment of the Obama goals. See it if you can, it will clarify alot of what has been brought in the previous communications. The goal is to bring The US down to a socialist government at which time it will no longer have the ability to survive as we no it. The primary reason is that when you remove incentive to improve either as a country or an individual you lose the motivation to work . This country was built on motivation and incentive and to expect to continue as a leader of the Free World and provide for the freedoms our country was founded upon we cannot over come a second Obama term.
Romney – Ryan is an excellent ticket. wise in the workings of what has made this country great (freedom to dream of greatness) the private sector (Romney) and the inner workings of Congress (Ryan).
The media has been the biggest supporter of Obama and they are the reason Obama is perceived to be ahead.
One thing the Romney Election Committee should do’ is insist that during the debates they divide the moderators between
conservative moderate and liberal members of the media to make sure the debates are fare, as it atands now Romney is set up for failure. Please no arguments on this, it’s so obvious to all that there is media bias.
We saw that movie and it is pretty sobering for sure. Mr. D’Souza does state that the basis for the movie is his theory regarding the basis for the POTU’S's motivation/goals. It certainly is something to think about. As we left the theater, everyone was fairly quiet and talking in whispers. 2016 is a powerful movie. I urge everyone to see it before the election. It’s non-partisan.
I think most of us want Owebamacare to go away. We must get like minded people out to vote.
Mr. Gunderson Because he is a muslim!!!!
What is the reason President Obama has decided that Muslims are mandated to come under his health care program and yet all protestants must even if it is against their beliefs. Makes you wonder if our President
has a reason to favor his brothers and sister Muslims. He is against America and he will do what ever it
takes to bring it down.
I cannot believe we have so many millions of people in this Nation who are lacking common sense.
President Obama is the closest thing to an Anti-Christ known to man. He wants about everyone
to be in the poverty level so they can depend on government benefits which there is no monies to
cover even the 47% now receiving benefits. This country will now never come close to reducing the
debt before the “Rapture” or the 2nd Coming. If President Obama wins the election, I would recommend
everyone pray that the bearings of the money making machines keep well lubricated.
According to Politifact, the majority of the 45% DO work and DO pay taxes in the form of payroll taxes for Medicare, Social Security, Sales Taxes, etc…They just get a tax break like your hero Mr. Romney. And, when was the last time you tried to support a family of four on $7.67 an hour?
Sorry for the typo. Make that 47% not 45%. I need to slow down.
Yes you need to slow down and listen to reason. Obama wants to move us to be a second rate country, and break our economic power status. I hope you make enough money to survive all the heavy taxes that are coming if he is reelected. How do you think we are going to reduce our long term debt? There is just so much you can squeeze the tax payer.
And, lets not be too quick to remember our seniors. A large number of them have only social security as a retirement income. If they are below the poverty level they pay no income taxes and they ARE included in the 47%. Is it them that you are referring to?
Oh yeah Obama really cares about seniors. That’s why he cut reimbursements to health care providers by $716B to fund Obama Care. Doesn’t one realize that some of those providers will go away or give seniors less care? Wake up!
Social security was never designed to be a persons primary source of funds in retirement. It was in fact called “supplemental retirement income.” Are you aware that 85% of social security is subject to income tax. This law came in with Clinton was in office and AARP never said a word against it.
Yes I am aware but some seniors do not have an employer retirement plan and were not well off enough to afford an IRA or 401K. These are the working poor. Because of their lot in life or because they did not work hard or whatever they are low income.
My point is that there are many low income people that do not pay income tax and many of these are hard working people.
Do you know that SKILLED factory jobs here in Jacksonville, FL for people who build our jet engines have gone from $23 an hour to $15 an hour to $9 an hour to the current $7.67 an hour?
Managers and corporate raiders that are like Mr. Romney are the norm now and they just come in and say “If you don’t want these jobs we will send them to Mexico for $4 an hour. Take it or leave it.”
I might be wrong but the 47% who do work and pay taxes get a refund when they file on those taxes, so they actually don’t pay taxes except possibly for the sales taxes because they are for local or state needs.
All the experts say they pay Medcare and Social Security taxes. There are no refunds on those.
I am 99% in tax free muni bonds and pay no income tax on that, so am in the 47%. Thank God I have an income source though.
Given that a few proposals have already been floated by Democrats in Congress to end the tax free status on muni bonds, you shouldn’t free so safe if Obama gets re-elected. We all know that raising taxes on those making over $250,000 won’t supply anywhere near the tax revenue Obama will need to cover all his “investment” (spending) initatives going forward and to keep the ratings agencies from further downgrading the U.S. in the future.
By the way, I own quite a bit of tax free muni bonds myself, but I actually bother to keep up what is being proposed in Congress rather than simply focus on Democrat talking points.
Thanks for the heads up. Business Week says that it will hurt local governments more than taxpayers because the interest paid will just go up.
BTW, my best muni investments ARE taxable and came from Obama. I have Build America Bonds that are 50% backed by treasury bonds and some pay in the mid 8% range. But these are VERY hard to find and they are snatched up quickly in today’s low interest market.
Yes, local governments will be hurt, because they will have to pay more in interest to attract investors. That will cause local governments to have to raise taxes on those that live there to pay the investors the higher interest rates. So the local taxpayers get hit yet again. This will ripple through the economy as more and more municipalities are caught in this interest rate hike trap, which will in turn hit more and taxpayers as their local taxes increase to cover the interest rate cost.
Did your Business Week artycle point out that as interest rates rise, the value of your tax free bonds goes down? That is how it works as risk / return is reset in a rising interest rate environment. The same will hold true of all your existing Build America bonds. As newer bonds come to market offering a higher interest rate, the value of the older bonds, that pay less, goes down.
Obama’s plan, per these Dems, is to replace all tax free muni bonds with the Build America model, which would make the federal government the sole financier of city and state needs. Not a good thing on so many levels.
Mike Harper – your “money-making machines” comment is predicated on the dollar being the medium of global exchange; something aleady being “corrected” by countries around the globe.
Should the globe go to the yen or some other form of currency and the dollar lose this advantage; we can make all the money we want; it will be no good even and especially with the Federal government.
Shame if we elect Obama to a second term. He will destroy our free society. He will not be satisfied untill he controls everything.I think they call this being a Maxist. He has bloated the government. He has created a national debt unparrelled in history. He will cut $716 Billion from Medicare and dictate to doctors how to practice Medicine through Obamacare. Scary Vote Nov 6.
Well saidto the previous writer I will second that
Nancy, I have a question. I have tried looking for the full version on the un, affordable no care act, with no information of importance, bit’s here and there.
What web site did you go to. I want to read the entire bill.
Thank you for your help. keep those facts coming loud and clear.
Lottie
The only thing that will ensure ObamaCare is fully repealed is electing Romney to the White House and having both houses of Congress in Republican hands by a wide majority. Anything else will result in ObamaCare becoming permanent, along with all the other terrible legislation enacted over the last 4 years.
If Obama wins a second term, this country, as we once knew it, will be finished. By 2016 the country would be so transformed as to make any and all future elections moot.
Although I do agree with you in both principal and fact, Romney simply is not a very convincing Orator. His speaches are absolutely not motivating. In fact, he is so unmotivating when he speaks, people will pick out “segments” of what he is saying, and completely distort the intention of the speech (or press release, or simply replys to important current events of the day. ((eg: mid eastern crises, financial and/or monetary issues, uemployment/underemployment, or no employment) Although Obama is clearly one of the best orators of the present day, he simply says nothing, and you may listen to the speach, and realize that he presents whatever he presents extremely well, however, he really said absolutely nothing that makes any sense. However, he does present whatever he is presenting quite well. We really all know that already. WHowever, when asked a question, there is no direct response. There always is a “back door” that is left open. Unfortunately it is always open. To conclude what I am saying is: “Romney will kill Romney”. That is unfortunate. However if he realizes his deficiency beyond his huge ego, he will relize this, and get some “motivatinal speech lessons”. His principles and what he stands for is right on the money. Unfortunately, most people just do not get motivated and not really listen to, or UNDERSTAND what he is saying, because he is presenting it so poorly.
I agree Romney is not an exciting orator and Obama can read a prepared speech from a TelePrompter much better. Romney would best be categorized as a “do-er”, not a talker and that’s what we need to get this country back on track. Ideally people need to take a little initiative and look into the plans of both candidates to determine who would offer a better long-term vision for the country. I would hope that at least 20 or 25 percent of those that blindly voted for Obama in 2008 would have learned that lesson this time around.
Personally, I would have hoped that Romney unleashed Ryan more to explain Romney’s plan to the American people. He is clearly more articulate and able to convey the guts of the Romney plan better than Romney himself. Unfortunately, it seems the campaign managers have opted instead to have Ryan simply read from their existing script, which is primarily designed to avoid anything that might be construed as offensive or unpleasant to “independent” or “undecided” voters. Not a good plan, if you ask me.
I’m wondering if all of the negative comments about the lack of Mr. Romney’s oratorical skills are morphing into a self-fulfilling prophecy. When you look at the American public, it doesn’t take a phd to see that charisma is the most important qualification to hold public office. Those that don’t have it are cast aside. Have you noticed the importance given to entertainment and athtetic stars? They are treated as being very knowledgeable about world and national affairs and play prominent roles at the political eonventions. It’s very sad to see that charisma and popularity have replaced skill, judgment, and common sense as the qualities that the electorate values the most.
Personally Shastastan, I would prefer the person with the proven ability to solve problems over the individual that “talks a good game”, but can’t get the job done. So the choice of Romney over Obama should be a no brainer as they say. Unfortunately, the American public seems to prefer style over substance and as such, seems to always gravitate towards the physically attractive candidate capable of reading a speech well. Not a recipe for selecting the best competent leadership to handle the most complex economy and foreign policy engine in the world.
Sounds like we’re in agreement and preaching to the choir.
It is so depressing to think that he might make it for another four years, He has just about destroyed our country and another four will do it and we will never recover, I can’t imagine what anyone in there right mind see’s in this person
When we vote Obama out and we have control of both chambers, Can we still have Obama vetted and found as an illegal in the WH, then everything he has done can be undone.???? We had no real president for 4 years.
Rolling back virtually 4 years of legislation by that means will never happen. There isn’t the nerve in Washington, either in Congress or the Supreme Court, to ever go down that road. There’s no automatic reset switch.
It has no basis in reality either. You might as well plan for a vacation getaway on a UFO. He gave up his birth certificate and it was determined to be valid. Get a grip on reality or get your meds adjusted. What other Internet myths do you support?
How do you say that BC was valid? IO have extensive experience with Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator, and I could have created a much better forgery than the fake document presented by this administration as a valid birth Certificate.. The second I saw it the edited areas were immediately obvious.Only someone with no knowledge of digital editing would see it as a valid document. Numerous experts in the field of digital imaging have proven it to be a forgery.
And UFO’s are sited every day.
I have a BS and MS in computer science and am also familair with what you say.
But since you are an expert and know for sure, why don’t you unseat the highest court in the land or start a new revoloution?
Why don’t you use your negativity FOR our side instead of against it?!
If you are asking me, aren’t there enough people using their “negativity” to support your side? It seems to me there are ample people on this board bashing our President – some with irrational and very hostile comments.
If Oboma wins, so goes the neighborhood! I’m OUTTA HERE!!!
Our vote has never been more important
PLEASE REQUEST AN ABSENTEE BALLOT if you have problems getting to the polls.
And mail it back ASAP. I drop mine off
I already have mine and filled it out for Mitt and all the rest only republicans get my vote this year
A friend has already suffered the results of a government panel (part of Obamacare) that has downsized the number of transplant clinics …she was set up with one, then they got the word that they were being ‘downsized’ — she had to find another location IN A HURRY !! — AND she had to move because she has to live in the state where the clinic/hospital is located !! How many states (especially in the west) don’t have the population for their own transplant facility ?? We in WYOMING would have to pack up, sell out and move to another state !!!!!
One More …. All the Florida “SENIORS” better get out and vote for Romney … or they will regret it for the rest of their lives and actually be doomed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Soooooooo ……. SENIORS all over and especially in FLORIDA (a Swing State) … VOTE FOR ROMNEY on 11/6/2012!!!!!!
I’ll be voting from Leesburg, FL on 11/6/2012 ……. for MITT ROMNEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I’m going to state only one thing …. “if we all don’t vote Romney in and Obama out on 11/6/2012, this Country is LOST, A GONER, NEVER TO RETURN TO WHAT IT WAS and LASTLY …. America will become a Socialist or Communist NATION!!!!!!!!!”
You can get a forged birth certificate anywhere. Get real. I want to see a Bureau of Vital Statistic proof before I am convinced.
Regarding Voter I.D … Seniors, you don’t need Big Government using you. Show them what the “Greatest Generation” is cabable of doing on their own. When they say “We’re from the government and we’re here to help you, run as fast as you can, get your ID and vote. Remember, when the present liberal government is through “helping” you, they will be throwing you under the bus with ObamaCare.
Regarding voter ID… Seniors, don’t ask what your government can do for you. Show them what a great generation is capable of doing on their own. When they say “We’re from the government and we’re here to help you”, run as fast as you can, get your I.D., and vote. You don’t need “Big Government” guiding you through life. After telling you that they are helping you, they are really throwing you under the bus with ObamaCare.
I am happy we older folks are paying attention to the details. In addition to all the required “taxes” in Obamacare, the one I regret most will be the dissolving of Medicare Advantage programs for seniors. Silver Sneakers, the pro- active emphasis on staying healthy, the quicker payment for doctor visits when needed, the ability to find physicians who will take Medicare patients, the more efficient handling of claims by the private insurers, the reduced amount of fraud in the system… these are the major advantages to the program which Obamacare will deny us.
I’m glad I dumped aarp (lower case deliberate!) and glad I joined AMAC. We must dump obama! He’s a communist; we were informed that he was a community organizer. What more proof! Rev. wright, the explosive man of God??? Obama never heard his evil sermons? Are you kidding! We must clean out our government…we want no communists. In the late ’40s, in my old neighborhood, Astoria, NY, they pelted the communists with rotten tomatoes!! Let’s pelt obama and his cronies…
AARP sold seniors down the river with ObamaCare. I cut my card up a long time ago, and sent it back to them.
Careful, President Bust didn’t gun down the guy who threw his shoes at him, but I wouldn’t pit it past our president. Besides, why do you suppose he’s distributing hollow-point ammunition to non-military government employees. Some say to enforce martial law.
I frankly do not like either candidate, but the lesser of the the two evils is Romney. Obama care = The US citizens first Government enema.
How do you see Romney hurting us. Weren’t you hurt enough with Obama. You must be on another planet or just plain ignorant, stupid or misinformed. Just look around at this country and it’s citizens who are still unemployed etc., and who is going to pay off this deficit of $16T. Hey you got a dime?
I’m with you, Ed. As they say “Two Eds are better than one”.I’ve been around this old world for 85 years and thought I’d encountered all the incompetents (remember Carter?) but I guess I just didn’t know about Obama. I’m afraid the American people were just blind sided.Unfortunately, I’m afraid Romney’s 47% will be enough to give Obama the time to completely destroy our wonderful country. Ah well, I’ve enjoyed the majority of my life and probably won’t live to see what he does to it. It is a shame my descendants will never know what a great country this was.
Please don’t stay home on Nov 6th!!!
I am a 95 year old WWII Vet. I to believe the pols are skewed. I Dems hope that GOP voters will be discouraged and stay home. We will prove them wrong!
The fact that government at its best will be in chage of what medical care you get is bad enough. The other laws in the bill make obama a dictator above all in this country and its laws. And has that backed up with turning it over to the united nations. what has the united nations done for you?
As of now with all of the people that are working and we will not have that in the future welfare can not be supported. the government federal is already cutting what medicine you can have on medicaid. They are already cutting what you get on wick for your baby. You see government does not make a dime. We workers paying taxes and the companies paying taxes and making work is whatt the government gets and with out the companies and the workers your welfare will be what you can find and seal.
OK everyone, enough bashing of those you disagree with. How about this: I will support Romney in the hope he has the executive experience to know he has to work with the opposition and make compromises to get anything done. Right now we have a broken legislature and no one in the executive branch willing or able to bring the two sides together.
I agree.
I saw the Democrat/Republican meeting on Obamacare. It wason C-Span3 in the middle of the afternoon. At one point Sen. McCain offered a suggestion. Obama’s response, “Oh, come on, John, we’re not campaigning now. At the end Obama said, “Maybe we could go over it point by point to Boehner, who was shocked, but relieved. He was so grateful to Obama, since this was what he’d suggested.Obama’s response was, like “We’re not doing that.”Meeting ended.” Can this be why Congress got nowhere?
The polls are skewed. Democrats and Independents are over-sampled. “Registered” voters are being sampled instead of “Likely” voters. The polls are just the Liberal media trying to suppress Republican voter turnout. Not going to happen though. Obama is gone in January!!
And is not the GOP trying to suppress voter turnout with new voter ID restrictions? It has been the concern of many that such laws will impact many innocent seniors who would not cheat at the voting booth or who vote by absentee ballots. My stepfather who is blind is one of them since he does not have a driver’s lisence.
Not even close! You libs have more excuses to support your cheating ways than there are stars in the sky. If you cared for your Dad, the first thing you would do is drive him to get a free state ID. Then drive him to the polls on Nov. 6. Lastly, stop your lying and excuses…not becoming of you or your party! (We know you already thought of these things…U just have to do some whining I guess.)
Well said, Biff!
I agree.
You have plenty of time left to help your stepfather get a State ID. I renewed my drivers license last week and I was told that I would have my new one in a week to ten days. The voter ID requirement was known months ago. There is no excuse for not having one.
You presume a lot. Not all seniors have any family anywhere nearby and the nursing homes really do not help with this type of problem.
I was merely trying to point out a real “obstacle” to people making it to the polls. A public opinion survery is an imaginary obstacle.
You are again refusing to see reality. All Seniors can call the Senior Hotlines, the Leaque of Women Voters, local churches, etc. etc. (In our area, it is called THE AREA AGENCY FOR SENIORS). They all will help Seniors with their life, including Meals on Wheels, driving seniors to appointments, etc. YOU ARE JUST NOT TRYING, but instead want to make excuses to get someone reelected whose Obamacare will really screw you stepfather when the government panel tells him he is too old to receive care or is over his limit.
That’s a lame excuse!! There are plenty of senior services that gladly help. What are you afraid that the illegals won’t be able to vote for BO.
All of you have drastically missed the original point.
Someone complained that the evil “FREE” press we are blessed with is trying to cause conservatives to stay away from the polls.
An opinion is no impediment. A voter ID is.
When did I ever say that they both can not be overcome?
Stop the attacks on my point.
Liberals complain that Conservatives are trying to keep the poor from voting.
And the homeless.
There are several on this board that have said that only people who pay taxes should be allowed to vote.
I guess that would leave out the unemployed too.
So take your blind stepfather to the courthouse or what ever state agency and get him an ID card.
I’m not sure why everyone is so afraid to show ID to vote. Although, your stepdad is blind he can still get an official ID card from the Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV).
Steve, your stepfather can easily get a State ID card at the Secretary of State’s office. In Mexico, a thirld world country in our eyes, they require a state issued picture ID and a thumbprint from every person. No absentee voting is allowed. If they can do it there, why shouldn’t we do the same thing here? Only our citizens and taxpayers should be voting on how our tax dollars are spent. The big reason no one in Mexico objects to this is because they don’t have an ACLU at work there.
You don’t need a driver’s license; you can go get a state I.D. That’s all you need.
If your stepfather is blind, and therefore does not have a driver’s license — GET OFF YOUR DUFF AND TAKE HIM TO ANY DRIVER’S LICENSE STATION AND GET HIM A STATE ID. By the way, make sure he has his birth certificate or CALL THE STATE AND FIND OUT WHAT OTHER DOCUMENTS WILL SUFFICE.. Seniors are even more interested in keeping our country the way it should be and not let voter fraud elect a person who is trying to change our nation into Obama’s perverted socialistic Dream.
Get some other form of ID. By the way do you think only Libs don’t have the proper form of ID. Do you think republicans are saying only dems need proper ID? How ignorant are you? Voter suppression? It’s a level playing field! Everyone has to produce ID!
Mr. Peoples; I agree with you 100%. I hope and pray you are right and by January we will have the start of getting back America as we knew it.And Obama will be gone.
It scares me how much more damage he can do right up until he leaves.
I would not be too quick to declare a victory for Romney/Ryan. The last poll I heard about said the Obama actually held a 7% lead nationwide over the opposition. And, as the saying goes, “You can prove anything with statistics.” I am sure that if we defined the term “senior” as a person aged 50+ years who is about to lose their Medicare to a private insurance industry that is about to to back to denying coverage to people with preexisting conditions, then the numbers would change drastically. And all polls depend on the demographic of the population surveyed. Also, in the polls I have been exposed to the Obamacare support breakdown was about 50-50. It will continue to be a huge fight no matter who is in office I am afraid. (Statistics are near and dear to me because I am a certified Six Sigma Greenbelt.)
But, just remember that no matter who wins, God is still in control.
I also doubt that Romney currently has the lead, but when all of the major media outlets except fox are running interference for the Obama reelection, lots of just plain folks get confused about what to believe. What I do know is that AMAC offers the only real voice for older Americans. AARP just showed their bias, not only with their support of the Obamacare legislation, which gave them a windfall insurance win, but by booing the vice presidential nominee at their convention. Older citizens only want what is due to them based on the lives they have lived. AARP seems to be controlled by a corporate mindset that says as long as they make lots of money on their insurance sales, Obama can do what he wants. Once the election is over, we will know if the elderly can rest easy or worry about further restrictions on their health care. I put my trust in Romney.
And just is what is “due” our FUTURE seniors who have worked a lifetime to earn their Medicare? Is privatization and repeal of current preexisting condition laws their due? I don’t think so. If Obamacare is destined to destroy the private insurance industry than so is the Ryan plan to throw millions of unhealthy seniors onto private insurance plans. Or as some say they may face paying up to $6000 a year MORE just to get a medical insurance plan. I am currently only 54 years old but I will be screwed if the Ryan “plan” goes through.
And, AARP unlike AMAC happens to be bi-partisan. Just today I watched their webcast from their annual convention where Paul Ryan spoke and there was plenty of cheering in the crowed for him. And the president of AARP encouraged people on all sides to voice their concerns and join the debate.
Ryan’s plan will not throw millions of seniors onto private insurance plans. They will have options, which Ryan has pointed out in all of his speeches. At this point, it’s better than staying with the system as is because it will be bankrupt in just a few years. Obamacare will ration healthcare, and that is worse. For example, there will be no treatment for Seniors who have cancer beyond the age of 76 (pg. 272). The govt. will provide insurance to all non-US residents even if they are here illegally. (pg. 50, Sect. 152). The govt. will have real time access to an individual’s bank acct. and have the authority to make electronic transfers from those accts. (Pg. 58-59) The plan will be subsidized by the govt. for all union employees, union retirees and community organizations such as ACORN.(Pg. 65) Doctors will be paid the same according to specialty and the govt. will set the fees accordingly (pg. 241 & 253). Think Docs will care when they aren’t getting paid what they are worth? The Ryan plan is at least a start in the right direction, and I’m sure it can be tweaked as time goes along. Obamacare is a disaster and if we go there, we’ll never go back. Once the govt. has control of your healthcare, they’ve got control over your entire life. Think about it.
Thank you Nancy for giving the facts.
And you seriously think that Romney has the “power” to “make” the private insurance industry give a senior with pre-existing conditions a realistic medical insurance policy for a mere $600 a month?
What other kinds of fantasies to you and he share?
When I was only 30 years old over 24 years ago with no pre-existing conditions I was offered a high deductible Cobra policy for $700 a month.
I lost my job again 3 years ago and the Cobra policy was quoted at $850 a month.
Now how much more is it going to cost a senior that in most cases will already have or will be developing pre-existing conditions? I know enough about statistics to know that the numbers don’t add up.
If you are worried about rationing now just wait until the private insurance industry gets its hands on senior healthcare.
Nancy is right and there are a lot of other things in “obamacare” that have nothing to do with health care such ast the 3.8% real estate sales tax effective on 1/1/2013,
It seems that I heard Ryan say that existing medicare beneficiaries would not be affected. If Obamacare is so great, why do so many get exemptions from it? I wish I had an exemption. It’s hard to find a primary care physician here now because so many are closing their practices.
Did you know that you will be limited to a total of $5,000 in care costs a year? How do you like being told how to die by a government panel? Will you get cancer care after age 72?
Reread Obamacare. It says that if you are 70 and older, you will not get treatment no matter what ails you. You will get “comfort care” (quoted from the original). Doesn’t matter if you have insurance or not. No exceptions. Another thing we need to be aware of – patients are no longer called patients, but “Units”. The same terminology that Hitler used and went forward with on his plan. Beware. Beware. We have been warned.
And when your limits are used up with a private insurance policy you will get no care – no matter what age you are. My sister who was only 40 had cancer. Because the private insurance company did not want to pay for her care their “death” panel as you call them shut off her care and left her to die. She had three months to live and they stopped all treatments. Fortunately God worked a miracle and her cancer went away.
I feel like I am beating a dead horse. Those with money will always get the best medical care. For some seniors that means just buying a supplemental policy. I for one plan to do that when I go an medicare. I am also diligently saving enough money to fill in the gaps. I plan to make up the difference on my own.
Not all seniors can afford to do this you say? Now who is the socialist and who expects someone else to pay for their care? How am I a “socialist” as some have accused me of being if I plan to pay my own way unlike my accusers?
AI joined AARP only to find that my “dues” were being used to support political agendas with which I do not agree. When I tried to resign, I was told that I COULD NOT resign from the organization. What??
So I joined AMAC and waited for my AARP membership to expire. AARP are still sending me notices to rejoin which I routinely ignore.
If it’s a choice between an organization that uses my dues to support disagreeable political idea and agreeable political ideas… AARP loses and AMAC wins.
Here’s what I do when I receive a request from AARP to join them. I write on the card that they sold the seniors down the river when they accepted the Obamacare or tear it into little pieces and send it back to them in their prepaid envelope using their postage
I’m addressing the statement that AARP is bi-partisan. I dropped out of AARP in the 90′s when they endorsed Clinton. I wrote to them stating they had never before endorsed a candidate. So, I dropped out of it and never sent any money to them again. I still hear from them asking me to join, but I won’t.
As for bi-partisan, I have a relative who works for a very large company and they support AARP 100%. They actually push the membership for AARP. This is their priviledge but I don’t belong to AARP anymore.
I’ve been around long enough to know who they support and that is why I dropped out in the 90′s. When AMAC came along I joined with them.
Look at the Past, Government intrusion into our lives, always turns into a disaster! I say down w/Obama and his health care. I am 74 and medicare works fine for me. Lets go back to the way our ancestors designed government to be. We the people one nation under GOD. IN GOD WE TRUST. Not OBAMA.
I wish young people HAD a past to compare today to.
Boy do you have blinders on. The AARP threw all seniors under the bus. Sorry you haven’t reached the 55 year old to not participate in Ryan’s Plan. But with Ryan’s Plan, you will not have a bankrupt system when you reach retirement. Also, my son was in the military for 11years and had to drop out because his wife was a 911 survivor and he had to take care of her (she died in 2011). It occurred to me that if Ryan’s plan was in place, his retirement would travel with him because of privatization. He now has nothing for those 11 years, except SocSec. Now Obama is calling Soc Sec a BENEFIT! It is not a benefit. We all paid for it. What nonsense is this that your money paid in can pay for all kinds of other things and then when you retire, you have to depend on current workers paying in for your part. Private Retirement KEEPS the money as yours and it is invested for you to get returns which are added to your account. Maybe you ought to thank Paul Ryan is he can deliver such an investment return to you. Obama is all about deception. Social Security a BENEFIT; what nonsense.
Read the Wall Street Journal article on how AARP was in bed with the Obama White House to push ObamaCare through, even though a vast majority of AARP members were against it. It’s called collusion and fraud.
These polls do NOT include a voter enthusiam factor. The GOP has the momentum in 2012 based on the utter failure of this worthless, do nothing nieve President who snuck under the radar screen in 2008 to declare war on America’s culture and financial system. Sorry, I’ll enjoy counting the votes on Nov. 6′th evening and expect America to soundly reject this worthless, fraudulant President who was mistakenly voted into such an important office in 2008.
God is control of the universe but is still allowing idiots to run this country in the ground. The media tries to make anybody that believes in God look like an idiot and unfit to serve since they believe we should have freedom from religion. Our leaders want more abortions, gay marriage and rights, less prayer and less talk about God, more redistribution of wealth, out of control spending, less freedom and some people think that is what God wants. I don’t pretend to speak for God but I hardly think that God would approve of the course we are on. It is up to voters to better consider where the leaders are taking us. It does not appear the voters even care about the final results; just what they can receive from the government coffers. It is a very sad time for America.
I am 87 years and you are right on!!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree with you, Ed, that God is in control. God said in the Bible, that if we turn our back on Him, He will turn His back on us. When we allowed God to be taken out of our schools, our government, our funerals, etc., we were turning our backs on Him. We can’t individually fight this administration (Obama in particular), but collectively we can fight them. Don’t let the media, and the polls scare you. Don’t be taken in by Obama’s smooth talk that lulls you. He is the judas goat that is leading his sheep to their slaughter. Unfortunately, they are taking us with them. I am 76, and a woman, and I will fight Obama till my dying breath, and I am still pretty healthy. We must as a nation, get on our knees and beg God’s forgiveness, and for His help. We need God. America needs God. Vote for Romney/Ryan, do not believe your vote won’t count.
The polls are skewed. Ignore them. More Democrats are being polled. The plan is to discourage Republicans from voting.
I will not vote FOR Romney but against Obama. I only wish Romney had picked Colonel/Congressman Allen West for his running mate. Allen West was a soldier who put his life on the line and not a charier Washington politician. And that is the reason neither Democrats nor Republicans like him.
What you are not seeing about Romney’s choice: There were SO MANY within the Republican field that would have been remarkable, if picked. Allen West was one of those, but so was Paul Ryan. Since this election has so many areas that need saving from Obama’s horrible years that Romney had to choose a VP nominee that had expertise in one of those fields. At the time Romney chose Ryan, as Clinton loved to say, “its the economy stupid!” Since then, we now have FOREIGN POLICY come close to the economy. Romney as an extremely successful Governor, CEO and Savior of the Olympics KNOWS HOW to choose people to work with him to get things done. Maybe Allen West should be Sec of Defense or maybe Sec of State. His talents, brilliant mind and experience would be awesome if used in those jobs. Romney is someone who is not flashy but knows how to keep focused on his Goals/ OUR Goals and achieve them or “Get -r- Done”!
God helps those who help themselves. Get out and vote. Get everyone you know out to vote. Don’t stop working until your vote is cast.
If Obama gets in there will be NO GOD in this country at all. The muslims will certainly take over then, he’s already letting them get away with murder . This might sound foolish but I feel he is trying to take us down from the inside.
He is alienating our allies,weakening our military, and if ever there is a WW3 we will no one to stand with us. I am reading a great book right now about how Obama cannot make a decision without the help of Valerie Jarett, the name of the book is “Leading from Behind” by Richard Miniter. I am sure it is libraries so if you get a chance ,read it , you’ll be shocked.
Helena. A possible answer is in the movie “2016″ See it if you can.