Older Americans may show up in greater numbers on Election Day because there’s more at stake: Medicare and Social Security -
BOHEMIA, NY, Aug 31 – “The smart money says that seniors, not young women, will determine who will be the next president of the United States,” according to Dan Weber, president of the Association of Mature American Citizens.
“We’ve got more skin in the game and we are sure to turn out in at least the same numbers as we did in 2010 when seniors accounted for nearly a quarter of the votes cast. In fact, many more of us may show up at the polls on November 6 because there’s more at stake, including our Medicare coverage and our Social Security benefits,” Weber said.
However, he cautioned senior voters to do their homework before casting their ballots. “Don’t be fooled by the scary campaign ads. Most of all, consider the pure and simple fact that both Medicare and Social Security outlays are growing at an alarming and unsustainable rate. Then ask yourself: Is Obamacare the solution or do we need realistic reform that will preserve these programs for us and for our children and grandchildren?”
The AMAC chief also reminded older Americans that Medicare and Social Security are not entitlement programs like Welfare and Food Stamps.
He described Medicare as a health insurance policy for which eligible older Americans have paid real premiums all the working days of their lives. And, he said, Social Security is a type of self-funded retirement program in which we have invested our own money, deducted every payday from our salaries and wages.
Weber concluded: “I, for one, will opt for reform over Obamacare. Its official name is the Affordable Care Act, but it is not affordable and it was crafted in secret to diminish the value our paid up Medicare policies to pay for free-for-all entitlements.
“I also choose sensible changes to the way our children and grandchildren pay for and receive Social Security. Specifically, in this day and age when people are living longer and working longer, it is not an onerous modification to up the age of eligibility; nor is it a radical notion to allow those who pay into the Social Security fund to opt for an independent Social Security IRA that lets citizens set up their own supplementary retirement accounts.”
NOTE TO EDITORS: Dan Weber is available for telephone interviews on this issue. Please contact John Grimaldi at 917-846-8485 or jpgrimaldi@verizon.net to set up a chat.
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Do we want a Chavez or a President? I think the correct answer is Romney, Ryan!
We are at a critical crossroads. Either capitalism or socialism.
I call our reps in Washington quite often and so far have not received a reply to the following. There is not one politician facing personal bankruptcy as they practice fiscal discipline in their home so why not apply the same discipline in Washington with our hard earned tax money? The answer from this writer it is driven by power and greed,
Obama lives in the present moment of power while Romney is a futurist for our children, grandchildren and for America.
Why would any man who has achieved the American dream, with 5 young men and 18 grandchildren, a supporting wife for over 40 years run for President other than being a true patriot with a deep love for this country. This is not an ego trip unlike Obama’s reason for running. Obama is all bout control, tax and spend. He is not a leader but a controller!!!!
Last Christmas I sat down with our two grandchildren who will be eligible to vote in this election. I explained Obama’s platform as well as Romney’s. They will be voting for Romney.
As I said to them if you cannot trust Pop Pop at the point in time then who can you trust? It is your future. Question with boldness and spread the word to your friends.
That is where we as grandparents can make a difference in this election.
Everyone falls into one of these (3) categories:
1) Those who watch things happen
2) Those who make things happen
3) Those who wonder what the heck happened
It is time that we as seniors step forward for the future of our country and for the next generation.
Do not be fooled by the scared tactics used by this admin. Their words have no substance. We had 4 years for false promises.
I am a recovering democrat and have voted conservative with Bush and McCain because I saw that the democrat party during the last 20 or so years has become all liberal/radical. For this country to sustain itself, the Romney/Ryan ticket must win in November. If Obama is re-elected, America will become a second rate world power and Obama just might be able to get himself a permanent position, like Chavez. What a scary thought.
Cuts in Medicare and SS must come. It’s the only way we can survive. We are America, not Greece. We will not riot in the streets when the government has to cut back on benefits. Let’s get on with the program and get Romney/Ryan elected. It’s the only thing that will save us. Oh, and please don’t vote for a third party candidate as a protest. That will get Obama re-elected.
Hope and change? Our only hope is a change! There’s an old saying; “Insanity is continuing to do the same old things but expect different results.” Obama and the dems controlled everything in Washington for two plus years, and made our economic problems more gigantic (doubled our national debt in two years!!!). Now, they continue to use Bush as their excuse? You got grandkids? You want a better world for them? You better plan on getting to the polls and voting for Romney/Ryan – CHANGE is our only HOPE!!!
read a lot of the post, and go see 2016 if you have any dought about obama, and what he thinks of America and the American people.
We all need to have the courage and pride that was evident during WWII, when we all pulled together and were proud to make the sacrifices required. Remember rationing food and shortages for the cause. We didn’t complain. We were Americans. There will be cuts under Romney because he cares to solve our economic issues. We will support him.
You are spot on.
Obama promised to cut payroll taxes in half. He hopes that will appease voters. Guess what, cities depend on payroll taxes over property tax to balance their budgets. Note the cities going bankrupt. Much is due to the 23 million not working and paying those taxes.
Hi Maureen, I just wanted to clarify something. The payroll taxes that the President talks about are the with-holding taxes for Social Security (FICA) and the Medicare tax. The amount for the FICA tax had been 6.2% up until about two years ago when the Democrats and Republicans changed it to 4.2% to “help stimulate” the economy. That was a terrible mistake for the Republicans, since that money is now not going into the Social Security system. But now the President is talking about cutting both even more. It’s very obvious that the Democratic party does not want to fix this by restoring the amounts to be paid to Social Security and Medicare, and reducing the regular income tax on Americans of all income levels. But the worst part is the fact that the President then implies that he wants to fix Social Security. It’s just plain incomprehensible!! And you’re right about the 23 million Americans not working or under-employed. That too is creating part of the problem. I do not believe the President has any idea how to get Americans back to work.
I will be voting for Romney.He is experienced and will be better at creating jobs. Some programs will have to be cut. There is no other way. This country is soooo indebt. Some govt. agencies should be cut like the Dept. of Education and other ones that are just dead weight.
Obama is a scary guy. He just creates diversions, so he can avoid discussing the budget, like the gay marriage thing, that was a diversion. He doesn’t care if the country goes down the toilet. Don’t vote for Ron Paul because your vote will go to Obama. Romney is a good guy with values. Go see 2016 and you’ll see what Obama has up his sleeve.
WOW! I just read about half of the comments here, and it sounds like we seniors have our acts together. I volunteered to do telephone contacts for the Romney/Ryan ticket. I live in a state that is definitely red and I wanted to make a difference, so I’ll be contacting people in swing states. If we all use a little of our free time and make contacts like this, I think we can definitely turn the tide in these states. Our country is on the brink of financial disaster and this election will definitely make the difference. Not only our lives, but the lives of our children and grandchildren will be determined with this election. Get out there and let your voices be heard. Do I sound like a Romney/Ryan enthusiast? Well, I am!
i find it so interesting, reading some of these posts, that people have such short memories….george bush had a very low unemployment rate,(5.4%) until both the house and senate went to the democrats in 2006… since that time, the spending has been out of his control, (due to congress control of the spending)…i am hoping that people with such short memories and almost an alzheimers’ like retention of fact, either do some homework before going to the polls on november 6 or risk pulling the wrong lever, once in the polling booth. obama is not the right choice for america, which has been proven time and again, over the past 4 years. yes, he can read a teleprompter, play a poor game of golf, drink beer, and use his chicago like thug methods to smear his opponent, but he hasnt been able to do anything he promised that he would do, when he ran in 2008. do your homework people!
I am a senior citizen who has been paying my Social Security and Medicare taxes since I was 18. I’ve noticed lately that my doctors have been getting less reimbursements for their services. This was caused by the $717 billion already taken from Medicare to fund the Obamacare when and if (if ever) it gets funded by Congress. Let’s all of us get real, Obamacare means as elderly persons, we no longer have the freedom to have a private (and special) relationship with our doctors as the IPAB group (already in place) will decide if we at age 70 can get an open heart surgery or a hip replacement since we would be considered too old for the government to fund the expensive surgery. Yes, right now we are still enjoying the benefits of our Medicare but not for long. If Obamacare gets funded in 2014, say good bye to getting medical appointments at your convenience, getting the care that you need as there’ll be 30-40 million more people being crammed into the system for the same number of doctors/nurses and hospitals. We would be sent home with prescriptions and a Visiting Nurse instead of getting the surgery or treatment that we would need. There will be heavy rationing of medical care since there’s not enough doctors to take care of more people. So many people are delusional as they think Obamacare would be free. Our taxes will also be higher as well as there’ll be hidden taxes for all the medical devices and treatments that we would need to fund Obamacare. Our health is our most precious commodity, do not let the government wrestle the control from our hands and appoint themselves in charge. Make life easier, just vote for Romney-Ryan in November.
Fashionable60s – You are dead on with your comments. I am 74 and do not look forward to getting sick or needing surgery under this dastardly plan. It will not work. Having lived in Canada for 36 yrs,, even before socialized medicine was enacted, I can attest to that. It was great at first but eventually it’s become so expensive since the money started running out. Obama has stolen $716 billion from Medicare to pay for his bill BEFORE Obamacare is even fully operational so imagine what it will be like over the next 5 or 10 years. The tab will be astronomical = exactly as the CBO has said. As former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher said – “Socialism is great until you run out of other people’s money.” Government’s demand for more money means it will come from our pockets. We can now understand why the politicians exempted themselves from it. Yes, Romney/Ryan on Nov 6.
I was a democrat & didnt vote for Obama the first time because I knew deep down this man was wrong. So now I know for sure he is wrong, my vote is for Mitt & I encourage other Democrats to do the same.
I,m an independent senior
. After carefully studying both candidates there is only one choice. Romney Ryan. Period
I heard an interview with Ron Paul and he didn’t say he was voting for Pres. Obama. He said at the present time, he doesn’t know if he is voting for Mitt Romney.
Daphne, I don’t know which Ron Paul interview you watched or which network you were watching, but it was not the one that my comment was based on. Ron Paul was directly asked if he would vote for Obama and he indicated that there was a possibility. Keep in mind that every news service interviews him and the questions that he is asked are not identical. In any case, you must realize that voting for Ron Paul is a vote for Obama.
As for anyone who thinks a protest vote for Ron Paul or any other person will somehow NOT result in getting Obama re-elected, I have one question. When was the last time a third party protest vote resulted in anyone byt the incumbent getting re-elected in the last 100 years?
Shades of Ross Perot!!!
The realistic choice comes down to Romney /Ryan or Obama /Biden. Romney and Ryan offer a well thought our plan for saving America. Obama and Biden offer a continuation of the last four years. Do we really need to discuss this further?
Pouting over Ron Paul will do WHAT?! Voting forr Obama and his socialist politics won’t help you now or ever. Talk about “cutting your nose off to spite your face”….. Stop sucking your fingers and grow up and work towards your choices in an intelligent, organized structure within your community. Romney wasn’t my first choice, either, but he’s my BEST choice now and I’m making that count at the polls. Get out of the corner and move forward one step at a time.
Please, please, please vote for Romney/Ryan. Help save our country and freedom!
Totally agree!!!!!
We have to get Obama out of office. Please don’t waste your vote.
Please stop calling Obama cute or racist nicknames. It hurts our cause and makes you sound ignorant. Just because the Left does that to our side doesn’t mean we should do it to them. Let’s be the adults in the room. There is enough to criticize Obama and the Democrats for without stooping to name calling. Thanks.
Well said!
I am so tired of those who blame Geo. W. Bush for the condition we’re in. I should remind them the congress spends the money, and until Jan, 2007, we had a democratic congress who voted over vetoes and spent like there was no tomorrow. Bucko has done nothing to make it better, indeed he has spent more than all other presidents by tons. I have an email to send any doubters about Bucko’s eligibility.
I missed it too;I hear from other medumis.Cain and Romney came out on top.Cain for being direct and calculated.Romney for being defensive.Sorry this is the best I can do from what I’ve read.
NOW, is the time for ALL good American men/women to come to the aid of their COUNTRY!!!!
That’s country, NOT party!!!! Do the RIGHT thing, or do nothing!!!!
A vote for anyone other than Romney/Ryan or no vote at all is a vote for Obama.
There are only two men who can win. Romney or Obama. Period. Voting for any other candidate may help the person that you DON’T want to win. You may love Ron Paul or even Johnson but you MUST vote for Romney to save your grand children’s futures.
I agree with the article and i will cast my vote for Romney and hope that obamacare is repealed and then reformed .
Sounds like a plan.
THE WAY I SEE IT. MITT ROMNEY & PAUL RYAN
THESE TWO WILL GET THIS COUNTRY ON THE RIGHT PATH AGAIN.
OBAMA IS NOT QUALIFIED IN ANY WAY TO BE PRESIDENT.
SENIORS IF YOU LISTEN TO THE MEDIA YOU ARE BEING MISLEAD.
THIS IS OUR COUNTRY AND WE HAVE TO TAKE IT BACK. VOTE YOU MUST TO SAVE THIS NATION.
Sandra D. You’re suppose to be a senior and you still can’t see the light????? There’s a great old saying, ‘A man can fail many times but isn’t a failure until he blames someone else’. Remind you of anybody?
There is no comparison between the two men running for president. Romney has the knowledge, the will and the experience to turn this country around with Ryan’s help. I’ve had enough of government interferance in my life in the last four years. We need someone who will make it easier for job creators. Romney is the person who can and will do it. I lived in Michigan during his dad’s tenure as Governor and did an awesome job.
AMEN!!! If Romney wins, then we’ll STILL HAVE A COUNTRY, but if OBSUMBO does, we can kiss the United States of AMERICA, goodbye!
We need to ask ourselves why did so many cabinet members choose to leave their jobs during the last 4 years?
Ron Paul has admitted publicly that there is a possibility that he will vote for Obama. His followers will follow his lead. They want Obama to win and bring down the country further so that people will vote for a libertarian in 2016. If Romney is elected they will have to wait 8 years and if things have improved for our country they don’t stand a chance of winning in 2020.
Ron Paul is an egotist and irresponsible. He is a crackpot who sounds more like a dictator than anything else. He also happens to be in the minority.
RON PAUL IS A TOTAL NUT! HE’S WAY TOO MUCH INTO HIS OWN EGO, and that puts him on a par w/ Obscumbo. HE’S A TOTAL ISOLATIONIST, who would have appeased ADOLF HITLER if he’d had a chance! What did we get for that sort of position: PEARL HARBOR!!!! This time, we just may get a NUCLEAR WAR! RON PAUL DOESN’T CARE!
I’m not very happy , I posted two different comments and neither one showed up, what’s the problem ?
Sorry, Helena, but I’m happy to know I’m not the only one with this problem!!
There are a few others in the same boat with us!! The malcontents belong on huffpo!!!! Their comments are being posted, tho thery’re on the wrong site!!
NO, I don’t think there is any bias on this site, it’s a Conservative site, why would they be against R&R, WE’RE all supposed to be on the same side???? It’s a technical glitch, otherwise, why are some posts shown and others are not??
Pam and Dan L, should be working on this as we speak!!
Romney/Ryan are the only choice that can prevail against Obama. We must get control of OUR GOVERNMENT. We have no excuse for not voting. If you can’t get to the polls, get an absentee ballot – call your local League of Women Voters, or local City Hall to get your absentee ballot. EVERY BALLOT counts this year. We have come a long way in America, and another FOUR YEARS of Obama could see us completely slide into socialism, and WORSE – and YES, it can happen JUST THAT FAST. This is OUR nation, NOT the politicians’. It is TIME TO TAKE YOUR STAND folks. In another four years you may not have another chance. God bless America. GET OUT AND VOTE!
LOL! I continue to be amused at people who actually think there is a difference in the “two sides”. Give me a break.
Clinton sent all our jobs overseas, Bush, Jr. took away almost every liberty with the Patriot Act and now Obama has given the big ag companies control over our food and the big pharma companies control over our health. No alternatives will be allowed under this.
If “Mitt” gets elected he will do just as Mr. Weber suggests–up the retirement age and probably cut benefits as well.
People are so gullible. BOTH SIDES ARE THE SAME. They just have the different groups they appeal to. Don’t you get it yet????
You are right about that either way to vote is bad it is always choose the lesser of the two evils and as long as our country is run by politicians it will be the same, I wish an independent would suddenly jump in to this stuff and give us a better choice but I think that might just cause Obama to win again and we can’t have that he is not and never was qualified to be president.
Where’s my comment about chariable gift annuities
If your comment has a positive slant toward Romney then that is your answer. I see many comments where something that has been wittten did not show up. This site is being watched, I am willing to bet. They are looking out for Obama.
NOT SO, you aren’t on huffpo!!
If you people out there want to vote for some one that doesn’t have a chance of getting elected because you think it’s time for a third party don’t waste your vote for president, do it through starting a third party movement in you local district. PLEASE, PLEASE DON’T DO IT BY STARTING WITH THE PRESIDENT. This election means the future of the country, Vote smart. Vote MITT.
Where is my posted comment !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
What about our low rate of return on our fixed income investments? With inflation factored in, we are getting a negative return. This economy is CONTRIVED, CONTROLLED, AND CONFUSED. Obama and Bernanke have to go and, no, they are NOT good men. They are dangerous.
The entire Obama presidency has been an exercise in pushing this country towards the adoption of socialism by incrementally destroying capitalism.
Never let a good crisis go to waste to increase dependency on the Gov. for your basic needs. Lose your job turn to the Gov. Lose your home turn to the Gov. Lose your business turn to the Gov. Cannot pay off your student loans turn to the Gov. Eventually one will owe their soul to the Gov. store.
When have we ever heard words from this admin.about the greatness of America and its people?
You people who bring up Bush, he turned into a big spending lib. Hes” not running, we have a clean cut business guy who I think can fix our economy. This bunch thats” in their don”t have a clue.
Ron Paul? Get reasonable. Romney is a businessman and know how to be profitable. He isn’t a politician looking for favors and doesn’t need the money. We need someone like him desperately. Ryan has been facing the cold truth for years. He is the same as the average guy, not rich. He has been talking about and trying to fix the economy since he first went to Washington. Get real folks! I’m not a Republican or a Democrat. I’m a conservative.
hi fellow Ron Paul supporters-
I would LOVE to see Ron win, but I definitely don’t want Obama to, so I will vote for the man who is most likely to NOT grow the government any further. Accept Ron Paul as an influence to vote Obama out and use your vote to vote for the candidate that has the better chance to beat Obama. Unfortunately, please realize a vote for Ron, or not voting, gives Obama a better chance of winning.
As a retired life insurance actuary, I agree with Dan Weber that we need to increase the normal retirement age (NRA). The fact is, improvements in geriatiric medicine are a very significant component for the projected bankruptcy of Social Security. Today, benefits sometimes last for upwards of forty years!!! Being retired, I no longer see the statistics as to how long the AVERAGE number of years of benefits really is, but it wouldn’t surprise me to learn that it now exceeds 25. The original intent (of the founders of OASDI) was to cover maybe eight to ten years of benefits at the end of life.
We need to do something else in addition to upping the NRA. There currently is no cap on the wage base for the Medicare portion of FICA taxes; there is a cap on the OASDI portion. That cap needs to be eliminated!
Alice-in…You are going to waste your vote. Same as not voting!
It IS a wasted vote, it goes right to ovomit!! What part of ‘ovomit must go,’ don’t you get????
Yes, this is a time for ALL of to come together! If you care anything about our country and our liberties you will cast your vote for freedom…Romney/Ryan
I believe that some sort of reforms are necessary to both Medicare and Social Security. Estimates are that both will go broke without any legislative reforms, Medicare in about 11 years, Social security a few years after that. Where did all of MY money go? One of the fiirst things the Affordable care act did was raid Medicare to $716B. Social Security has been expanded to pay for things that it was not intended to pay for.
Since both programs were crippled by legislative action and poor management they need to be mended by the same people who goofed them up in the first place. This time the laws should be made applicable to everyone, including the government officials that craft them. Just like my 401K and other investments their needs to be a system to account for expenditures, gains and losses in a report so that everyone can see the results of the management team.
One of the big problems is that for a lot of us time has run out on refiguring the amortization of Medicare or SS. I am using it now. Just like a former employer that wanted to switch the retirement plan from defined benefit to defined contribution, the switch was OK for younger people but disastrous for older workers. This may be an intractable problem but ignoring the problem of Medicare ans SS will not make it go away.
We have our ‘choice’ of tomato or tomahto. I like neither. Therefore I will vote with my heart and my conscious for the only TRUE choice….Ron Paul.
This election is possibly THE most shameful ever. I have never seen an election where the “opposing” candidate were identical!
They are NOT identical, Alice. All your NON-VOTE does is lessen the chances for Romney, who at least wants to repeal Obamagovtcare. C’mon! Get with it! Don’t be a stooge!
Voting for Ron Paul is the same as voting to re-elect Obama. That’s what the net effect of your protest vote will be.
Alice – Ron Paul is a good man; however, he was not nominated by the Republican Party and is not our candidate for President against Hussein Obama. You know, I am sure, that a vote for Ron will be a vote FOR Hussein Obama don’t you? As a woman and a senior citizen I urge you to vote for Mitt Romney.
Why are you going to vote for Ron Paul. He has no chance in winning. A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for OBAMA. What part of this election don”t you get.
NEED MORE ARTICLES EXPLAINING THE PRO’S AND CON’S OF OBAMACARE. MOST SENIORS ARE BEING TAKEN IN BY FALSE FACTS THAT THE DEM’S ARE PUTING OUT VIA THE LIBERAL MEDIA. NEED MORE FROM AMAC ON WHAT PAUL RYAN IS OFFERING TO US.
There are NO pros, Victor, ovomitcare is ALL garbage, it’s all about control and power and goes WAY beyond and outside of medical care!!!! It will affect/control every aspect of your life and isn’t worth the paper it’s printed on, or the ink to print it!!!!
I tried to post some details, but the post wasn’t accepted!!
Paul Ryan offers you NO CHANGE. What he offers keeps your grandchildren whole in their senior years.
Hey Victor,
The reason there no pro’s for obamacare is because there aren’t any!!!
Victor, What I understand about the Obamacare is there will be a board of individuals that will decide if you get the operation you need or not.If they don’t feel you have anything to offer back as a person then you won’t get what you need, therefore you can either get better on your own or die.The Obama care has got over 2000 pages of mumbo jumbo in it.
As a person who claims to be representing seniors I am a little bothered by the comment that the only reason we go to the polls is to save social security and medicare. We more than any other group understand what the nation has is supposed to look like and the damage done by washington elites who probably know but, make self serving decisions anyway.
I agree with Dan. The math dictates the current funding is not sustainable for the long term. Romanies and Ryan are willing to stick their necks out and tell the truth.
You’re out of your mind, Dirk. Who the heck do you think got us into this mess anyway by spending the credid card with no limit? There was NO PROBLEM before that? Remember? Of course you don’t. No one has any kind of memory these days, do they?
Remember when Georgie boy took over, there was a surplus? Oh yea, that’s right–only on paper, but isn’t it interesting how Georgie boy spent all that paper?
This is a joke and my other detailed comment didn’t post either. I think this site is a sham and a propaganda machine for the Repubs, just like other sites are for the Dems. Both criminals!
WHY are you on this site, this isn’t huffpo????
Hey, Sandie D. What in the world have you been smoking. Georgie B has been gone for four years. Get a real life and start taking responsability for your Barackie O’s mistaakes.
Sandra, here we go again the same old dribble…blame the other guy. This administration has had over three and a half years without producing one single budget…and still they have a large and growing beficit. If I remember correctly both Bush administrations and possibly back to the Ronald Regan administration, had democratic controlled congresses. (I just looked this up-in most cases the dems have controlled both houses of congress since Ike…with a few exceptions)
Can we please quit going back to the previous administration. It was old 3 yrs ago. Are you better off now? Do you want your grandchildren to have something? I was one of those hoping for something new many years ago, younger and foolish. I made the mistake of voting for Ross Perot. I listened to many hours of the RNC this week. Mitt makes me want to be a better Christian, Friend and American.
I’m sure that is how a lot of the hope and change crowd felt in 2008. It’s time to admit that what we have is not working. Mr Paul has some good ideas, but as previous posters have said, “he is not the nominee, a vote for him is a vote for Obama.”
America people must rally around Romney for the alternative would be more of the same that is control, tax and spend.
The only slick willie had a surplus, only on paper was because he cut the dept.- defence to the bone.
Closed down military bases, sold property to forginers. He only ballanced the budget and had a surplus
for the Government , done nothing for National debt. OBOZO Has spent (4) four times as Georg W Bush.
Do I need to go on?
Another tiresome liberal with the same old, same old. How many times do we have to hear that whining about it being Bush’s fault? NOW LISTEN UP – Bush has been out of the WH for almost 4 years and he is not running for the job!!!! Now Bill Clinton is another kettle of fish on whose record it appears Obama is running because his own record is one of failure. Sheesh!!
I tried 2 other comments earlier and neither got posted!! FIX this problem!!!!
WHY did this one get posted and the others didn’t????
Sam thing just happened to me we’ll see if this posts-
Where’s my detailed comment folks???????????????
MINE, too??