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AMAC: Obamacare Provision Threatens Rationed Medical Care for the Elderly

Its Independent Payment Advisory Board will have sweeping powers that need to be checked –

BOHEMIA, NY, Sep 14 – “There may not be a ‘death panel’ lurking in the Affordable Care Act but there is an Independent Payment Advisory Board [IPAB] that has some folks – including many physicians – scared it will ultimately find a way to ration care for the elderly,” according to Dan Weber, president of the Association of Mature American Citizens.

“You can hide a lot of mischief in a 2400 page law.  Perhaps, that’s why they didn’t want you to know in advance what was in the legislation that the President calls ObamaCare.  And, the IPAB is, in fact, one of those hidden threats all set to rear up and bite us come 2015 when the Board is expected to begin functioning.”

The stated purpose of the IPAB is to control costs and that’s a good thing, said Weber.  However, he added, when you dig down into the descriptions of the Board’s functions and powers a lot of questions are raised.

“For one thing, it creates the very real possibility that the Board will reduce payments to doctors as a means of controlling costs.  In turn, it raises the specter of physicians choosing to not treat Medicare patients at all or, if they do, they might elect to limit the amount of care they will provide.”

In a letter to AARP, Representative Phil Roe, who is a physician, himself, urged its CEO Barry Rand to join in a concerted effort to repeal IPAB “before it can deny seniors access to needed medical care.”

Weber pointed out that AMAC is “an unabashedly conservative alternative to AARP and so Congressman Roe didn’t have to ask us for our support; he already had it and were urging him and his colleagues on.  And so he sought to achieve a non-partisan, united front by asking AARP to come on board in an effort to protect the needs of older Americans, but they refused to join the fight.”

In his letter, Roe stated that: “As a physician with more than 30 years of experience, I have grave concerns that the IPAB will function as a denial-of-care board that will slash Medicare payments just to meet an arbitrary budget.  While advocates for the IPAB highlight statutory language that prohibits rationing, this term has never been adequately defined.  In addition, the ACA [Affordable Care Act] does not prohibit reducing payments to physicians.  As Medicare currently pays only 80% of what private insurers do, any additional cuts could severely limit patients’ access to care.”

Weber stated AMAC’s position.  “We fight for the things that older Americans and seniors want and need, including the preservation of Medicare.  Polls show that the majority of Americans, particularly our membership and that of AARP, don’t like ObamaCare because it threatens to destroy Medicare.  Its Independent Payment Advisory Board has would give unelected bureaucrats sweeping powers that need to be checked.  It’s unfortunate that AARP won’t join us, but AMAC is one senior advocacy organization that will not allow political relationships and ideologies to interfere with its mission.”

 

NOTE TO EDITORS: Dan Weber is available for telephone interviews on this issue.  Please contact John Grimaldi at 917-846-8485 or jpgrimaldi@verizon.net to set up a chat.

 

ABOUT AMAC

The Association of Mature American Citizens [http://www.amac.us] is a vibrant, vital and conservative alternative to those traditional organizations, such as AARP, that dominate the choices for mature Americans who want a say in the future of the nation.  Where those other organizations may boast of their power to set the agendas for their memberships, AMAC takes its marching orders from its members.  We act and speak on their behalf, protecting their interests, and offering a conservative insight on how to best solve the problems they face today.

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Vivian Pruitt
3 years 11 months ago
We have a specific insurance problem and no one seems to be able to help. I know this is a little off the subject. We are definitely against Obamacare because we do not want a committee deciding if we should have medicine or medical care because we are too old. We are a little different than most retirees because we have a 13 year old daughter. The problem being that since I retired and both my husband and I will be on Medicare we can’t find an insurance company in Texas that will take our daughter by herself. I do have her on Cobra for now but the cost is outrageous. Ok, the insurance companies may have to take her because she has Asthma but the issue is they don’t have to sell the insurance. Does anyone have a solution to this or know of an insurance company that will… Read more »
dorothy
4 years 4 days ago

Thank you for providing a forum to express my opinion and share others.

Wanda
4 years 5 days ago

Pre existing conditions will be covered…Great!…… OR IS IT?
The Affordable Care Act- does not guarantee the medical care needed.
It’s a totally different animal that we are accustomed to.
Obamacare is set up primarily to eliminate the opportunity for doctors to make individual decisions. It says that “Important medical decisions will be made centrally, and will be transmitted, through the new healthcare structure, to the doctors on the ground.”
They are referred to the “Death Panels”. They will exist and their job is to determine if money/care is to be spent for OUR needs. Their job is to ration out the health care (and in most cases I bet they will favor a young person over a senior citizen.
So before you start cheering for Obamacare
You better read what you are getting (or not)!

Steve O
4 years 5 days ago
Wanda, you ignore the perfect storm scenario stated in my comment. What kind of healthcare will a senior with NO policy whatsoever get when Medicare is privatized and the insurance companies can deny coverage to seniors with a preexisting condition? Well? I’m all ears! Rationing of healthcare goes on every day in the private insurance world. If you want more coverage after your limits are used up you need to have a more expensive policy. That is all. And as for a Medicare senior, that is called a supplemental policy. Seniors will NOT be forced into death by a “death panel”. If they pay more out of pocket for their care or buy a supplemental policy they will get the care they need. How is forcing our seniors of the future into a situation with NO coverage a better scenario? If they have a pre-existing condition they cannot currently buy… Read more »
Robert Blevins
4 years 7 days ago

I belong to both Amac and Aarp. I would like to drop Aarp But we have our medical insurance through them. Amac could not provide this for us because of pre-existing conditions. Could Amac suggest where we can get insurance as reasonable and that gives us the coverage we have now? You have a lot of catching up to do before we can drop Aarp.

Steve O
4 years 7 days ago

Maybe if you wait until the current law kicks in in 2014 you will have more choices as a healthcare consumer with a pre-existing condition.

What I want to know is how all these rabid conservatives screaming to privatize Mediare expect to deal with seniors who have a pre-existing condition? If they overturn the current new laws and then privatize medicare they will create the perfect storm for all seniors in the future seeking medcal care with a pre-existing condition. Millions of seniors will then lose access to any insurance at all.

And, please don’t forget that ALL seniors will eventually have a pre-existing condition unless they die in “perfect” health.

I am glad to hear that that great Satan AARP has done some good for at least one senior on this blog.

Steve Serebrenik
4 years 6 days ago

Why don’t you call Romney/Ryan?

Steve O
4 years 5 days ago

Do you seriously think they will take my call and listen?

My only hope and prayer is the some organization with more clout like AMAC will come to it’s senses and go to bat for seniors with pre-existing condition who will be destroyed by these proposed changes.

But, most of the people on this board are over 55 so they will not be impacted by a cancellation of Medicare.

This issue had better be addressed in the upcoming debates too because it is HUGE!!

Steve O
4 years 5 days ago

This Friday AARP is holding a conference with Obama and Romney/Ryan and it’s member’s questions on changes to Social Security and Medicare will be directly submitted and answered by the candidates. Now that is what I mean when I say it is good to have an advocate. It looks like my voice will be heard or at least the voice of all others who share my same questions and concerns. AARP really does care about people age 50+ – not just people age 65+!!!

Don Aschenbrenner
4 years 7 days ago

The statement that Medicare pays 80% of what private insurance companies pay is more than slightly inaccurate. Medicare pays 80% of what Medicare deems allowable for any and all procedures. Medicare generally disallows 50% of the original charge and then pays 80% of that, which is only 40% of the original bill. It’s no wonder medical bills are so high. It also benefits the insurance companies as their 20% is only 10% of the original bill. The only way we can make sense of this mess is to quit lying to ourselves as to what the actual costs of services are and to make insurance really insurance, that is casualty protection from extreme circumstances. The idea of first dollar coverage by insurance defeats the very nature of insurance and has put us in the current unaffordable position.

L Herath
4 years 5 days ago

Mr Aschenbrenner,

You are right about Medicare paying less and less all the time. I am currently an RN in a very busy hospital and did you know if you acquire an infection in the hospital during your stay…..Medicare can now refuse to pay for THE WHOLE VISIT? They are making it harder and harder for medical professionals and hospitals to make any money at all. The whole system is already in upheaval just based on the more recent Medicare cuts. I don’t know what the answer is, but Obamacare is NOT IT! Try wading through some of the healthcare bill. It’s prohibitive to regular Joes on the street! 2400 pages of legalese that not even our Representatives will read….

Bill Borgers Sr.
4 years 8 days ago
Please feel free to publish if you want. I want a Senior Citizen Organization to promote my interests, not the Socialist Government’s policies. The AARP is a branch, albeit stealth, of the Obama administration, giving support to that party. In my view, does not represent my interests at all. The first indication that drew my attention, was the non- increase of my social security cola. As it turned out, when I learned the reason much later for the non increase, it sounded reasonable. However, if AARP really represented my interests, they would have announced the non-increase and the reason for it. Since a lack of increase is unfavorable news, to the members, they never said a word. That clued me in, to their agenda of being linked up to the administration. I never said a word to them, but just ignored their requests for dues. That was a few years… Read more »
Alice
4 years 8 days ago

My neighbor lived in England until 2003. His 70-year old gardner was diagnosed with prostate cancer. The British Health Service looked his age and “worth” – and then sent him home with no drugs or treatment – only a promise to “keep him confortable.”

Obamatax will create more than 100 new commissions and require hundreds of IRS agents and accountants with federal benefits paid for with taxpayer money – and who won’t provide one iota of medical care.

Personally, I don’t want a panel of 15 politically appointed, non-medical, paper-pushing, bureaucratic parasites deciding if, when, or where any American could have medical procedures done.

L Herath
4 years 5 days ago

Alice,

You are SO right!

PaulE
4 years 8 days ago

Alice,

Your neighbor just explained how socialized medicine controls costs. They simply withhold medical care to the seriously ill after a certain age. In short, once you reach a certain age and fall into a specific economic demographic, not a member of the wealthy or ruling elite, your value to society is nil. So then you’re sent home to die quietly and not cost the state any money. That’s the brutal, horrible truth of single payer socialized medicine, that the progressive movement has been pushing for years as the utopia of medical care. It doesn’t sound like utopia to me. How about you?

Edith
4 years 8 days ago

I’ve just recently joined AMAC . I have a dental plan with them that I am happy with and I am looking forward to a lot of help from them this year. They have a lot of benefits for seniors.

Kent Cerrone
4 years 9 days ago

Do you believe AARP is a non-partisan group fighting for seniors? Well neither do I. They are running ads in Cincinnati and even sending out voter instructions on how to vote for Obama’s plan. They are using the same lies and scare tactics the Obama campaign is using.

Why isn’t AMAC countering this? Why isn’t Romney countering this. We need to take off the gloves and get in the fight before it’s too late.

Judy Ness
4 years 9 days ago
I received a letter from my doctors office recently and have to return it soon. It says my doctor and hospital are Participating in a Medicare Accountable Care Organization and Information on Sharing Your Health Information. It further states that if I DO NOT want Medicare to share my personal health information with my doctor and hospital, I should sign this form. (Ignoring a signature might make matters worse I think) I have to “check” that No, please do not allow Medicare to share any of my personal health information with my doctor and hospital. Now, my question is, if I do not sign the form, does that mean Medicare will then automatically refuse to make any payments on my health care? It says earlier in the letter that a group of doctors and other health care providers working together with Medicare to give me better service and care. (Is… Read more »
Beverly
4 years 9 days ago

I am 75 yrs old. I hope they do use the needle on me. And Death would be better that being
alive with Obama running the Country for the next 4 years. Senior better wake up and stand up
this is a dangerous President and we must vote. Don’t worry that Mitt is a Mormon. I’ll take a Mormon any day than a Muslim. Mitt loves this Country and will do his best for us. Lets give him a chance this Nov 6th to bring respect back to our Country, and stand by God and ask him to help us before it’s to late.
I have friends in other Countries that are praying for this Nation. Can we do any less?
God Bless you All and God Bless America.

Alice
4 years 8 days ago

Harry Reid is also a Mormon – but the major media won’t tell you that.

PaulE
4 years 9 days ago

On AARP, I see they still pushing the government’s line that ObamaCare is the greatest thing since sliced bread. They continue to repeat all the lies of “you can keep your existing doctor, insurance, level of coverage”, “costs will go down, while quality of care goes up”, and the whole line of b.s. the administration used to push ObamaCare through. So it’s pretty clear who AARP stand up for and it’s NOT its members.

JoAnne D
4 years 9 days ago

I agree with you Paul. I lost my Dr. of 35 years to Obamacare already, I was lucky to find another Dr. who would take me as a patient, but some people may not be so lucky. Come November I hope people will think of this and vote accordingly.

Shastastan
4 years 9 days ago

I lost 2 doctors and it took me a year to find another one. They jammed so many non-medical things in that bill–like a 3.8% sales tax on the gross selling price when you sell your house. There’s also a big play on words like reducing amounts paid to providers doesn’t mean a decrease in benefits to medicare patients. Really? Our country has lost it’s common sense to apathy and lack of reason. Very sad, IMO

PaulE
4 years 9 days ago

What we’re likely to see as ObamaCare takes hold over the next few years is the emergence of doctors who are no longer willing to accept Medicare patients. Rather than submit to the constant government intrusion and endless paperwork of more and more rules, some doctors will instead offer what amounts to private care on a cash basis. You pay a set amount each year to the doctor and he or she agrees to see you on a priority basis and offer treatment outside the restrictive control of the government.

PaulE
4 years 9 days ago

I’ve had the opportunity to get the opinion of several doctors and nurses over the last two years about both ObamaCare in general and the IPAD specially. Virtually all of them describe ObamaCare as the death of patient-centered healthcare as we know it. It is the transfer of control of access to medical care and treatment to the government, instead of being between the doctor and patient.

On the specific point of IPAD, again virtually everyone I’ve spoken to describes it as the government determining what the valid procedure or treatment will be for a specific healthcare problem and depending on where the patient fits into a specific demographic (age, gender, previous medical history, etc.), what type of treatment will be authorized for the patient. This is how socialized medicine functions in England and how they control costs. ObamaCare will be virtually the same thing under a different name.

Ron
4 years 9 days ago

Rationing is already here, in Medicare. I used to be able to get a Nuclear Stress test once a year by order of my cardiologist.. Not any more. Now, unless a doctor can prove I need one, I cannot get one. I am sure there will be a lot more restrictions to come under Obamacare. I don’t know if they will be as bad as they are in England or Canada, but if they are, look out! In 2001 when I was 63, I needed a stent to open an artery that was 95% blocked. I got it with no problem. If I had been in England, I would NOT have been able to get it because I was over 50 years old.

Howard Wolf
4 years 9 days ago

This is amazing; this president has both an aunt and a brother in Kenya who are living on less than a dollar a day. This president is a millionaire eight times over and reportedly receives $72000 permonth from his investments alone, but hasn’t the charity in heart to help his catastrophically poor relations. Yet he has no qualms about sticking the rest of us with an impoverished healthcare system.

We must vote him out of office!

dorothy
4 years 4 days ago

He won’t help to improve their staits because he believes we(americans) need to be lowered to their level. Vote him out,out,out.

William Petrosky
4 years 9 days ago

I am probably one of the “younger” members of AMAC at 58. I’m still working, although I am seriously ill. I joined AMAC because I am of the opinion that the Affordable Care Act, otherwise known as Obamacare, threatens the health and wellbeing of all Americans, not just some of us. My employer’s insurance plan enabled me to get the treatment I needed when I was at my worst and return to productive and gainful employment. I fear that by the time the full provisions of Obamacare kick in, I will be forced to accept a lower standard of care that may ultimately end the quality and duration of my life. Granted, there are many flaws in our current health care system. However, it’s the devil you don’t know that I fear most. Thank God for AMAC’s ability to shine a bright spotlight on some of Obamacare’s less-known privions!

Sid Sorenson
4 years 9 days ago

Absolutely the very best alternative to AARP..Join and find out. You can always switch back if you don’t like it, but I bet you won’t!!

Sid Sorenson
4 years 9 days ago

AMAC is the very best alternative for AARP. Join and find out!! What do you have to loose??

Helena
4 years 9 days ago

He doesn’t have any seniors in his family that will have to worry !! His aunt and uncle who are both illegal aliens are both on the dole here in Ma. and his mother-in-law who already is living the high life in the white house so what does he care about the rest of us. He seems to care more if illegal aliens are taken care of than United States citizens.

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